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Morrow witnessed the exact moment when the hacker community turned on Lamo. It happened, in a stark way, at a Hackers On Planet Earth conference in New York. Hacker meetups were usually a great opportunity to party, meet new people and start new projects, but from the outset it was clear that post-Manning, this HOPE meeting would be different.
"The first day at the conference there were a lot of people yelling out 'snitch' and at least one occasion that I recall somebody spitting in his direction," Morrow recalls. "It was a rather divisive time back then. Something like this had never happened to the community. Up until that point, Adrian had been an inspiration, but that all turned. In their minds, or in the culture, the worst thing you could be was a snitch and I think that probably confused a lot of people. There was a bit of a mob mentality, people were just so taken aback that this happened."
[...] After the conference, there was no ambiguity about how the hacker community felt about Lamo.
"People hated him," said another of his friends, Andrew Blake. "He couldn't log on to any sort of interest platform under his actual name without instantly getting some sort of hate directed toward him. Even when Adrian would do something with the absolute best of intentions, as soon as anyone realized that it was Adrian Lamo who did it, they didn't want anything to do with it."
(Score: 3, Informative) by GeminiDomino on Friday September 20 2019, @04:58PM (10 children)
"Metoo" predates the hashtag by a few decades.
Also often expressed in the olden days as "AOL"
Nice job dragging your identity politics into things, though.
"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of our culture"
(Score: 2) by JNCF on Friday September 20 2019, @05:10PM (9 children)
Please explain what "metoo" meant before the hashtag, and how it applies to Manning.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday September 20 2019, @05:55PM (8 children)
Oh, that's easy. It meant, and still means, to the best of my knowledge, me too... But don't take my word for it, ask your local language professor...
I think somebody was saying Manning is a copycat... But don't take my word for that either
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Troll) by JNCF on Friday September 20 2019, @06:24PM (6 children)
Explaining a pre-hashtag meaning of "me too" is easy, but you didn't explain how it relates to Manning. Care to explain how Manning was a copycat in a manner relevant to this discussion? Until somebody does, I'm gonna keep assuming that Freeman's comment was a transphobic dogwhistle.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Friday September 20 2019, @06:44PM (5 children)
I'm gonna keep assuming that Freeman's comment was a transphobic dogwhistle.
Yes, of course you will. Might explain why you don't see the relevance
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Insightful) by JNCF on Friday September 20 2019, @06:48PM (4 children)
Can you explain the relevance? I honestly googled for #MeToo stuff related to Manning before replying to Freeman, I'm open to being wrong here. I just don't think I am, and none of you have presenting a convincing alternate explanation of the comment.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday September 20 2019, @07:00PM (3 children)
Assange...
Manning says, (look at) *Me* too!
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by JNCF on Friday September 20 2019, @07:19PM (1 child)
Really, every whistleblower but the first one is a "metoo"? Given that Snowden's leaks hit after Manning's, why isn't Snowden a "metoo" in this context?
(Score: 2, Troll) by JNCF on Friday September 20 2019, @07:24PM
Also, Manning didn't come forward until Lamo doxxed her, so claiming that it was a cry for attention seems absurd.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday September 21 2019, @11:19AM
(Score: 2) by Pav on Saturday September 21 2019, @05:13AM
Given that Snowden called himself "Citizen Four" in reference to another three whistleblowers, he's the most "me too" of the lot. And why is that a bad thing? Regarding Assanges "iffy"ness... people unpopular to the establishment have had sex weaponised against them since forever, and a documentary by a well regarded Australian investigative team who visited Sweden at the time largely absolves him. If you're interested it's called "Sex, Lies and Julian Assange".