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posted by Fnord666 on Friday September 20 2019, @12:31PM   Printer-friendly
from the RIP dept.

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/19/760317486/the-mysterious-death-of-the-hacker-who-turned-in-chelsea-manning

Morrow witnessed the exact moment when the hacker community turned on Lamo. It happened, in a stark way, at a Hackers On Planet Earth conference in New York. Hacker meetups were usually a great opportunity to party, meet new people and start new projects, but from the outset it was clear that post-Manning, this HOPE meeting would be different.

"The first day at the conference there were a lot of people yelling out 'snitch' and at least one occasion that I recall somebody spitting in his direction," Morrow recalls. "It was a rather divisive time back then. Something like this had never happened to the community. Up until that point, Adrian had been an inspiration, but that all turned. In their minds, or in the culture, the worst thing you could be was a snitch and I think that probably confused a lot of people. There was a bit of a mob mentality, people were just so taken aback that this happened."

[...] After the conference, there was no ambiguity about how the hacker community felt about Lamo.

"People hated him," said another of his friends, Andrew Blake. "He couldn't log on to any sort of interest platform under his actual name without instantly getting some sort of hate directed toward him. Even when Adrian would do something with the absolute best of intentions, as soon as anyone realized that it was Adrian Lamo who did it, they didn't want anything to do with it."


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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @09:07PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @09:07PM (#896647)

    Your tone, focus and representation of yourself sounds very much like my late nephew.

    Not just in this comment, but in most of the stuff you've been posting here.

    I know it's really difficult dealing with schizophrenia. My nephew (he was only 20 when diagnosed) had the choice to take his meds and feel *nothing*, but without the paranoid delusions and hallucinations, or feel alive but see assassins behind every lamppost.

    He chose to end his own suffering (his parents stopped him from doing so on at least a half-dozen occasions) and he suffers no more.
    We remember him [bensmemorialmile.com] and try to help make things better for those who are afflicted with this terrible illness.

    I'm sorry that you have to go through this and I hope that medical science will, sooner rather than later, give you better choices than my nephew thought he had.

    My heartfelt sympathy goes out to you.

    I don't

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @09:27PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @09:27PM (#896648)

    URL gives an expired cert error, which could exasperate schizophrenics?

    The Epstein saga has been like cotton candy to people like J-Hud. But there are more reasons than ever to be paranoid, at least in America. May we live in interesting times.

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @09:41PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @09:41PM (#896650)

      URL gives an expired cert error, which could exasperate schizophrenics?

      Yeah. It expired on September 1st. I texted my brother about it a little while ago. Hopefully they can get the cert renewed soon.

      The Epstein saga has been like cotton candy to people like J-Hud. But there are more reasons than ever to be paranoid, at least in America. May we live in interesting times.

      Paranoia can be really debilitating, sure. Not sure what Epstein has to do with it. He was just a garden variety scumbag who happened to have lots of money. As such, it took much longer to nail him.

      As for those who think he was murdered to keep him from revealing all his secrets about the rich and powerful, I'd point out that there are several other folks who were aiding and enabling Epstein's crimes. They were involved and at all the same "parties." As such, they can testify to all the rich, powerful folks courted by Epstein.

      His death changes nothing. If all those other folks have fatal "accidents" or "suicide," then you might have something. Unless and until that happens, it's baseless speculation IMHO.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @10:03PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @10:03PM (#896652)

        Were you paying attention to the media firestorm in the days before, and particularly after, Epstein's death? It was the joke everyone was in on. Even mainstream media outlets found the death to be fishy, especially when irregularities about inattentive guards, broken security cameras, and the rest came out. Epstein is the JFK or Pizzagate moment of 2019 and his death will be fodder for conspiracies for years and decades to come. Even if it was only a mundane suicide, paranoid schizophrenics aren't going to buy that. That might be why J-Hud is mentioning Epstein in every other comment. It has become an essential building block for their world view. Online trending anti-pedo crusaders will become enablers for the most virtuous of schizos.

        Instead of closing the book, any co-conspirators will only add fuel to the fire. A fire which has now engulfed RMS of all people. Very easy to throw "they are trying to stop open, secure software and hardware" into the conspiracy brew. Pro-Trump, Anti-Trump, Cheese Pizza, free software, everyone gets an angle with Epstein!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @11:29PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @11:29PM (#896664)

          Oh. I see. So now I should worry about what conspiracy theory nutters and the batshit crazy think?

          There are already enough problems in the world and in my life that have actual evidence. I won't ignore those in favor of half-baked ramblings and paranoid bullshit.

          Want me to care about your pet bugaboo? Show me some verifiable evidence that it's a real issue that has real impact.

          The death of a piece of shit rapist/trafficking hebeophile and the fallout from that certainly doesn't rise to that level, IMHO.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @06:19AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @06:19AM (#896733)

      URL gives an expired cert error,

      FYI...According to the folks who manage the site, a renewed cert should be in place within 24 hours.