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posted by martyb on Sunday September 22 2019, @05:44PM   Printer-friendly
from the the-kitchen-is-closed dept.

A developer of some Ruby Gems pulled the code as a statement against certain entities (Department of Homeland Security — DHS) ultimately using the code. Chef gets owned in the process.

ZDNet has a good rundown of the incident:

https://www.zdnet.com/article/developer-takes-down-ruby-library-after-he-finds-out-ice-was-using-it/

It seems that developers at chef may have used an old copy of the dev's code to get things back up and running again, which seems like exactly the wrong approach.


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 22 2019, @06:11PM (20 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 22 2019, @06:11PM (#897194)

    Freedom to use the software, by any person, for any purpose.

    But today's leftists don't care about freedom. Instead ideological conformity rules the day. The ideology is so extreme that the *United States* is considered "evil." No doubt they would prefer Iran or North Korea. It's not surprising, today's liberal ideology isn't very different from those places.

    These people have no idea what evil is, and while their software is welcome, they have no business pretending to be any kind of moral authority. Fortunately, the nature of free software is that you cannot take your ball and go home, no matter how entitled and childish you are. Once it has been released, your control over it is limited to the willingness of others to accept that control.

    It does point to a certain risk assumed by users who draw their software directly from the source, rather than making their own copies - a mistake I've made in the past as well, but am now more careful about. The usual risk is malware finding its way in unnoticed, but the real problem is trusting that the publisher won't do something bad without you noticing.

    You must always have control over all your essential technology. All. Of. It.

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  • (Score: 3, Flamebait) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday September 22 2019, @06:26PM (12 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday September 22 2019, @06:26PM (#897202) Journal

    Ivan isn't getting his money's worth out of you...

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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday September 22 2019, @06:29PM (4 children)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday September 22 2019, @06:29PM (#897204) Homepage

      "Ivan" is the democratic party. Fuck you Ruskies, we will beat you Hillary 90%-ers down!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 22 2019, @10:29PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 22 2019, @10:29PM (#897274)

        Warren! Warren! Warren!

        Tear down the wall!

        • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 23 2019, @01:20AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 23 2019, @01:20AM (#897331)

          While I tend to agree with you, I have to ask: what wall?

          The orange moron has not managed to get any of his wall built, just some repairs and replacement of a very small(like his hands) section of existing barrier. What a total loser...sad.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 23 2019, @05:28AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 23 2019, @05:28AM (#897425)

            It's quite the replacement.

            There were little 6-foot fences made of wire and perforated sheet metal, and there were anti-vehicle barriers that anybody could walk through. Now we have 500 miles of nice new barrier. Most of it is 18 feet or 30 feet high, with big fat bars as thick as human legs. It's quite respectable.

            The dude redid a third of the border despite America's congressional enemies making things difficult. That is quite the feat.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 23 2019, @05:08PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 23 2019, @05:08PM (#897675)

              500 miles??? Holy shit you'll accept any BS as fact that they spew at you on that propaganda channel. Try 13 miles [bbc.com], which hasn't even been built yet.

              Overall, $6.1bn in funding had been secured by May 2019 to build 336 miles of new and replacement border wall, according to US Customs and Border Protection.

              This includes funding approved by Congress as well as extra cash Mr Trump has been able to access since he declared a state of emergency in February.

              The 336 miles of planned barrier includes: 86 miles of "new primary wall", 24 miles of "new levee wall" and 226 miles of replacement barriers.

              About 40 miles of replacement barriers have so far been completed, with construction of a further 55 miles now under way.

              Department of Defense funding is also paying for an additional 131 miles.

              The first construction on any extension to existing structures - what could be termed new barrier - has started in the Rio Grande Valley, Texas, where 13 miles of "new border wall system and levee wall system" is being built.

              Although a further 95 miles is planned for that location, construction at five major landmarks along its length has been prohibited and some landowners have gone to court in an attempt to stop building on their property.

              Despite Mr Trump's continued determination to see a wall along the border, a survey in January by the Pew Research Center suggests the majority of Americans - 58% - oppose substantially expanding it, while 40% support it.

              And don't be too impressed with any of this on account of the way he is trying to do it is unconstitutional and against the law, particularly telling subordinates to knowingly break the law and unlawfully seize property and that he would pardon them if they get arrested and charged.

              And how much of this is Mexico paying for? That was the foundation of that campaign promise. Building it to fulfill a promise doesn't count when you don't fulfill the promise.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Sunday September 22 2019, @06:36PM (5 children)

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday September 22 2019, @06:36PM (#897207) Journal

      *sigh* How 'bout shitcanning that Russian BS? It's so worn out.

      And the point is true. Once it's released, it's out of your hands, and is none of your business.

      Now, I would like to know why drawing up old code to keep the system running is the "wrong approach". It seems you do what you can until you find an alternative.

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      • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 22 2019, @07:40PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 22 2019, @07:40PM (#897232)

        How 'bout shitcanning that Russian BS? It's so worn out.

        Did the Republicans ever stop about Obama being a Kenyan Muslim? Bigotry is present on both sides.

        • (Score: 2, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Sunday September 22 2019, @08:13PM

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday September 22 2019, @08:13PM (#897243) Journal

          Don't care. That's no excuse.

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        • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 22 2019, @10:29PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 22 2019, @10:29PM (#897273)

          The certificate was shown to be a forgery and the person who validated it was the only casualty in an ‘accident’. I guess the NPC meme is apt here.

      • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Sunday September 22 2019, @08:14PM

        by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Sunday September 22 2019, @08:14PM (#897244) Journal

        Well, it's none of your business as long as you didn't foresee the abusive uses, or design it to enable the abusive uses, or continue to maintain it despite the abusive uses.

        If you do any of those things, you need to balance the good vs. the bad, and decide whether it is proper to allow use to continue (if you control that) or to maintain it (if you do that).

        If you release software you've pretty much got to accept that people will use it as they choose, because you can't stop them. Not unless you've got fancier lawyers than they do, or have judges in your pocket...and even then not until you can show that they are using it in ways that you didn't approve of. So you might as well say "I place no restrictions upon use", because only the honorable will attend to those restrictions anyway. I believe that MSWindows has been used to control nuclear reactors despite explicit prohibitions.

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      • (Score: 2) by VLM on Monday September 23 2019, @04:19PM

        by VLM (445) on Monday September 23 2019, @04:19PM (#897640)

        Back when the Russians were stuck with the "holier than thou leftism as a religion" outlook, our left got tons of semi-illegal support from the USSR, and then the Russians got based and don't social status signal their holier than thou marxist superiority, our american leftists are like angry jilted women lashing out at the (russian) man who dumped them.

        So before the big dramatic breakup, the commies at CNN loved the commies at Pravda, but after the big breakup its all about hating the other side and anyone not in my corner is an agent of the other side plotting against me and all that stuff.

        Just watch some womens soap opera dramas, especially some juicy breakup plots, and you get insight into our SJWs hating their former allies.

        Fact of the matter is, between the jilted SJWs and the greedy military industrial complex, Russia got a bad rap for a long time. Now they're just some land empire on the other side of the planet, live and let live, etc.

    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday September 22 2019, @10:51PM

      by Bot (3902) on Sunday September 22 2019, @10:51PM (#897283) Journal

      Not completely on topic but I have a lot of fun every time a leftist mentions Russia.
      First because when the same place was named URSS the roles were reversed, to the point of Russian cities being dedicated to Mr. Snitch Togliatti.
      Second because the internationalists who want to abolish borders become very mindful of them when the human being who orients the policy of another human being is not a lefty
      Third because in my place Italian antifascists killed other antifascists because they planned to annex more territory to the eastern bloc, and given that being antifa meant working for the allies they managed to be traitors squared or cubed depending on your POV of Italian civil war in 1943.

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by RamiK on Sunday September 22 2019, @08:15PM

    by RamiK (1813) on Sunday September 22 2019, @08:15PM (#897246)

    Freedom to use the software, by any person, for any purpose.

    No. When you download anything under BSD or GPL, you are, in effect, licensing it. You don't even have to run it. Just downloading the code is copying which puts the data transaction under IP transfer laws and copyrights specifically. So, if your government decided to allow software patents, you also need a patent disclaimer or you'll end up fucked by the likes of Microsoft even if it's GPL. This is why GNUPG doesn't support RSA or IDEA as they're patented. And if the government decides to sanction, say, Iran, by banning IP transfers, American businesses can't legally offer or use software from or to Iranian businesses and citizens even if it's "free". You can ask Huawei for how that works.

    There's also liability issues that some licenses may fail to account for similar to how automobile and medical equipment manufacturers can't put a disclaimer on their products. For instance, privacy laws in the EU led to heavy fines being imposed on Facebook and Google over the tracking they perform despite notifying their users and offering the software free and open. The US is currently looking at even more serious actions including breaking them apart since it's clear their legal teams will drag the issue in courts otherwise.

    Then you have legal restrictions on radio equipment with regards to accessing certain bands that may or may not limit some products from have an open source baseband or encryption export restrictions.

    There's also limits on software penetration tools sales which is why they're chiefly traded in the dark web.

    So no. It's not by any person for any purpose. Not from the suppliers end for certain. But on on the receiving end either.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by fido_dogstoyevsky on Sunday September 22 2019, @10:46PM (1 child)

    by fido_dogstoyevsky (131) <{axehandle} {at} {gmail.com}> on Sunday September 22 2019, @10:46PM (#897279)

    ...The ideology is so extreme that the *United States* is considered "evil."...

    In many ways the US is evil.

    ... they would prefer Iran or North Korea...

    No, because in many ways Iran and North Korea are evil.

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    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday September 23 2019, @04:41PM

      by Freeman (732) on Monday September 23 2019, @04:41PM (#897651) Journal

      The US is evil in many ways. It's just that the likes of Iran/North Korea make the USA look like paradise. Which is a scary thought.

      The USA's constitution was written and amended multiple times, usually to clarify even more freedoms for the people. The USA has strayed greatly from that original concept. Government for the people by the people. Then again, maybe the people are more like Trump than we'd like to admit.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by c0lo on Monday September 23 2019, @12:07AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday September 23 2019, @12:07AM (#897307) Journal

    The ideology is so extreme that the *United States* is considered "evil." No doubt they would prefer Iran or North Korea.

    Congrats for establishing a new record of fallacy density: non sequitur, false dichotomy, strawman in less that 25 words/a couple of sentences.

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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 23 2019, @12:48AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 23 2019, @12:48AM (#897318)

    The ideology is so extreme that the *United States* is considered "evil." No doubt they would prefer Iran or North Korea.

    Were you to observe it from the outside, you would realise that the United States *is* evil. Comparing it to other examples of evil doesn't make it good, it just illustrates its evilness in relation to others of its sort. "The lesser of two evils" is still evil.

    Try it this way: would you rather a punch in the face or a kick in the balls? Does your selection mean that that option is good?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 23 2019, @02:23PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 23 2019, @02:23PM (#897556)

    Leftists, Gracie? mmmmmmmmkay.

    So the world considers our President to be a leftist and there's no conformism on the right? mmmmmmmmmmkay. *giggle*

    And sharing openly is the best way of obtaining control. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmkay. *please stop as you are making me laugh so hard as to risk incontinence*

    Can I get some of what you're smoking? Sounds like some righteous shit.

  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Monday September 23 2019, @04:26PM

    by VLM (445) on Monday September 23 2019, @04:26PM (#897643)

    The ideology is so extreme that the *United States* is considered "evil."

    There's a lot of code words and identity politics going on, but at the core its Jewish (wo)men hating White men, once the filters are removed. And there's various hangers on and innocent bystanders and well funded agents, but that's basically it.