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(Note: emphasis in original.)
Why is this important?
Mr Trump's most ardent critics accuse him of using the powers of the presidency to bully Ukraine into digging up damaging information on a political rival, Democrat Joe Biden.
Meanwhile, Mr Trump and his supporters the former vice-president abused his power to pressure Ukraine to back away from a criminal investigation that could implicate his son, Hunter.
Mr Biden is the front-runner for the Democratic nomination to take on Mr Trump next year.
In other words, it is nothing less than the White House at stake.
[...] What happened to the whistleblower's complaint?
After receiving the [whistleblower] complaint, the inspector general informed Joseph Maguire, the acting director of national intelligence, and said the matter was "urgent". The intelligence community whistleblower law says the director has seven days to pass the complaint along to congressional intelligence committees.
That didn't happen.
Instead, Mr Maguire spoke to a lawyer who told him the issue was not "urgent", at least according to legal standards, according to [T]he New York Times.
As a result, Mr Maguire decided that the members of the congressional oversight committees did not need to see it.
On 9 September, the inspector general informed Congress about the complaint's existence, but not the details. Democrats in Congress have since clamoured for more information - including a transcript of Mr Trump's call - but the administration has refused to co-operate.
And that's where things currently stand.
[...] Did Mr Trump commit an impeachable offence?
The constitutional process for handling a president who committed illegal and-or unethical acts is impeachment by a majority of the House of Representatives and conviction and removal by a two-thirds majority of the US Senate.
The US constitution outlines the grounds for impeachment as "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors". When it comes down to it, an "impeachable offense" is whatever a majority of the House says it is.
Inspector General of the Intelligence Community Letters to Congressional Intelligence Committees
(Score: 5, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Tuesday September 24 2019, @05:39AM (16 children)
I recently ran into this: https://monsterhunternation.com/2018/11/19/the-2nd-amendment-is-obsolete-says-congressman-who-wants-to-nuke-omaha/ [monsterhunternation.com] which despite the URL is very interesting. There's a quote in there which I think pretty much sums up the DNC:
I truly think the DNC and many of the rank and file think this way, and it isn't healthy. It will eventually lead to actual hostilities.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @06:12AM (6 children)
Says someone with an agenda. I don't know *any* Democrats who think or speak that way. However, this guy is painting Democrats with the same broad brush he *claims* Democrats are using.
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(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @06:20AM (2 children)
Yo those claims of Othering are real, and happen. It's easier to see in college students, but happens at all levels. Human innate instinct is to form an ingroup organism and defend that, including a default hostile attitude to other groups. It makes the person doing the Othering - especially when that person is hypocritical due to claiming to be woke - look really foolish to anyone with a sufficiently mature perspective to notice.
Maybe that author used too broad a brush but this is universal human default behaviour, and all of us, especially when discussing formal political/ized groups, would profit by heeding the advice.*
*ok maybe not. "Team of rivals" and sports teams which perform better against better opponents, capitalism is based on competition, life is suffereing, and so on. Maybe strife due to Othering is the agent of change we need. /doubt
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @08:44AM
Fuck you, you Republican! We are coming for your AR-15, and your chasity belt, and your bump-stock, and your inflatable sex-doll. We are coming for your capital gains, your secure bonds, and offshore accounts with benefits (off-shore islands with tons of underage young girls that Jeffery says are OK to, well, you know, since you are a pedophile perv, and major researcher at a major (MIT) PIMP (Primarily Interested in Maximal Patronage) University.) Yep, all checks out! Except for the pitchforks and torches at the campus gates?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @04:13PM
I think that's your problem, right there. If you are using college students as your baseline then you will get a skewed view of the world.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @06:23AM
Relax, he's not that gullible and he's not interested in your tools. Until after the next election, he makes some extra money from the propaganda budget.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday September 24 2019, @03:06PM
Yes, you do. The last two presidential candidates, Obama and Clinton did so when they described "bitter-clingers" or "deplorables". Sure, they didn't dehumanize opposing ethnic groups to the point that would rationalize genocide, but those were classic examples of "othering".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @08:35PM
Whoa! Are you saying they are not?
(Score: 1, Troll) by c0lo on Tuesday September 24 2019, @06:19AM (6 children)
Since you clearly see that's no healthy, maybe you should stop thinking this way? Especially if those thoughts may lead to hostilities. (grin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Tuesday September 24 2019, @08:26AM (3 children)
I was riding around with a friend of mine -- Vietnam Marine Corp vet -- and we're talking about some corrupt bullshit I can't recall, and he uses a frequent epithet of his: "commie bastard". I immediately say, "hey -- I'm sitting right here you know!" and we both laugh. I also know some pretty far left people and I can say that the joke in reverse, let's say the person sad "capitalist scum", if I said "Hey, I'm sitting right here you know!" -- it would go over like a lead balloon.
Now, there is one group of right wingers who would react badly, the evangelical crowd. But the current dogmatic, prudish, holier-than-thou, we're gonna force you to live our way attitude of many on the left, is EXACTLY the same bullshit I always hated about the evangelicals. Scolds and bullies suck, no matter the persuasion.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @08:34AM
Mrs. Pence says she cannot wait for the Rapture. This seems to suggest she has never achieved orgasm. Mike, can you confirm?
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday September 24 2019, @08:57AM (1 child)
Take care not to make a mistake of the same nature', tho'. The one that stops you see the man from the group that man declared her/his affiliation.
Sorta like generalization on the line of 'all lefties want to eff me' (first, is false, most of the world is left-er of US left and are just happy to go ahead live-and-let-live with their life. Second, you risk creating walls and potentially escalating them).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @12:58PM
Its not all lefties, it's progressives. When you meet one on the internet or in real life you can tell. Religion of woke. Where I live, I don't see many who base their whole identity around politics. Plus a large portion of the "send the republicans to the gulag" types don't have the balls to say it in meat space. It's a majority democrat area and even so it doesn't come up in my day to day interactions.
That said, go out and wear a maga hat and the cult followers will harass or assault you. Doing the reverse in a republican area will get you some comments but not beat up. Sad to say, this loud minority is steering the ship and acting out. Not having a normal democrat as an option means you get 4 more years of trump. It is what it is.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by aristarchus on Tuesday September 24 2019, @08:32AM (1 child)
Once again, the c0lo wins the thread with calm and measured commentary. I have a difficult time believing that he posts from Australia. But then, if you want to go where wackos were sent to work out their eccentricities against the hard stone of the outback, reality has a well known liberal bias, especially in the outback, so the only Auzzie conservative are from the cities. And they seem to have British genes. OH, so sad! The Microclitorians, they do nothing!
But then, what was the point, anyway? Time limit? Janrinok acceptance conditions? All this remains a mystery to regular
Soylentils, as well as others.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 25 2019, @12:25AM
Ya for real. "What is this Ukraine fuss about?" Like the first time you see it doesn't give you the info. Such a hackish way to push propaganda and steer the conversation.
Assholes!
(Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Tuesday September 24 2019, @11:57AM (1 child)
Then you have blinders on if you don't see that the RNC and many of the rank and file also think that way.
Start with Libtard. Travel through that one can LEAVE THE COUNTRY or one must HATE THE COUNTRY if you dare to disagree with the Alt-Right conservative doctrine, or that if one is on the left (or lives in a Democrat controlled region) one naturally lives in a crime-infested hellhole. Then sweep through all the insults about being sensitive (snowflakes, SJW's) - that's questionable to associate to liberals but I think a case can be made for it. And of course if you dare support abortion you are a baby-killer.
But what do I know, I must just be a radical nutjob, eh?
This sig for rent.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 24 2019, @01:02PM
Both sides are insulting each other with increasingly violent rhetoric.... you don't say.