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posted by janrinok on Saturday September 28 2019, @11:05PM   Printer-friendly
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NASA Wants to Send Nuclear Rockets to the Moon and Mars

Just north of the Tennessee River near Huntsville, Alabama, there's a six-story rocket test stand in a small clearing of loblolly pines. It's here, in a secluded corner of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center, that the US Army and NASA performed critical tests during the development of the Redstone rocket. In 1958, this rocket became the first to detonate a nuclear weapon; three years later, it carried the first American into space.

The tangled history of nukes and space is again resurfacing, just up the road from the Redstone test stand. This time NASA engineers want to create something deceptively simple: a rocket engine powered by nuclear fission.

A nuclear rocket engine would be twice as efficient as the chemical engines powering rockets today. But despite their conceptual simplicity, small-scale fission reactors are challenging to build and risky to operate because they produce toxic waste. Space travel is dangerous enough without having to worry about a nuclear meltdown. But for future human missions to the moon and Mars, NASA believes such risks may be necessary.

At the center of NASA's nuclear rocket program is Bill Emrich, the man who literally wrote the book on nuclear propulsion. "You can do chemical propulsion to Mars, but it's really hard," says Emrich. "Going further than the moon is much better with nuclear propulsion."

Emrich has been researching nuclear propulsion since the early '90s, but his work has taken on a sense of urgency as the Trump administration pushes NASA to put boots on the moon ASAP in preparation for a journey to Mars. Although you don't need a nuclear engine to get to the moon, it would be an invaluable testing ground for the technology, which will almost certainly be used on any crewed mission to Mars.

Let's get one thing clear: A nuclear engine won't hoist a rocket into orbit. That's too risky; if a rocket with a hot nuclear reactor blew up on the launch pad, you could end up with a Chernobyl-scale disaster. Instead, a regular chemically propelled rocket would hoist a nuclear-powered spacecraft into orbit, which would only then fire up its nuclear reactor. The massive amount of energy produced by these reactors could be used to sustain human outposts on other worlds and cut the travel time to Mars in half.

"Many space exploration problems require that high-density power be available at all times, and there is a class of such problems for which nuclear power is the preferred—if not the only— option," Rex Geveden, a former NASA associate administrator and CEO of the power generation company BWX Technologies, told the National Space Council in August. Geveden's sentiments were echoed by NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine, who called nuclear propulsion a "game changer" and told Vice President Mike Pence that using fission reactors in space is "an amazing opportunity that the United States should take advantage of."

It's not the first time NASA has flirted with nuclear rockets. In the 1960s, the government developed several nuclear reactor engines that produced propulsion much more efficiently than conventional chemical rocket engines. NASA started scheming about a permanent lunar base and a first crewed mission to Mars by the early '80s. (Sound familiar?) But as with so many NASA projects, nuclear rocket engines soon fell out of favor and the office in charge of them shut down.

There were technical hurdles too. While the concept of nuclear rocket engines is simple enough—the reactor brings hydrogen to blistering temperatures and the gas is expelled through a nozzle—designing reactors that could withstand their own heat was not. Earthbound fission reactors operate at around 600 degrees Fahrenheit; the reactors used in rocket engines must be cranked to more than 4,000 degrees F.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 29 2019, @03:02AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 29 2019, @03:02AM (#900147)

    he wants to nuke hurricanes

    No, he asked about nuking hurricanes. As it turns out, this is a pretty common question and has been looked at off and on for some 70 years. If Trump wanted to do it, he would have done it. He isn't a man who can be deterred from what he actually wants regardless of whether or not its a good idea.

    Your existance, as always, is fake news.

  • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Sunday September 29 2019, @04:00AM (4 children)

    by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Sunday September 29 2019, @04:00AM (#900159) Journal
    He's an idiot. There is no basis for nuking hurricanes. He asked because he thought it would work, same as every other uneducated dumbass who considered it. Then again, his base is uneducated so what can you expect? Stupid people doing and saying and voting for stupid shit.

    Fact is that it's best to ignore Trump supporters. Too stupid to reason with.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 29 2019, @04:26AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 29 2019, @04:26AM (#900169)

      Speaking of idiots, you and Trump should get along nicely together.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 29 2019, @02:36PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 29 2019, @02:36PM (#900311)

        It turns out Trump isn't orange, he is peach. Therefore, he must be impeached.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 30 2019, @01:33AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 30 2019, @01:33AM (#900644)

      The idea of nuking hurricanes was looked at by many scientists when they didn't know about what they could and could not do. The Russians have done the same thing. Scientists looked at the possibilities of using them in mining. In general it was thought that the radiation problems could be resolved and nukes would solve everything. If people in the know, at any point, wondered about this, then people with no knowledge on the subject will always ask questions.

      But its pointless because you just have TDS and dont actually think.

      • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Tuesday October 01 2019, @01:24AM

        by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Tuesday October 01 2019, @01:24AM (#901072) Journal
        The use of nuclear warheads for peaceful uses was way back in the early 60s (project plowshare). It had already been determined by both the US and Russia that nuclear weapons have no peaceful uses before Trump was eligible to vote.

        Trying to claim that Trump might have had a viable idea recently in nuking hurricanes is stupidity that any science nerd in the early 70s would have already known to be bullshit. If Trump had ever read a book he might known it - it wasn't a state secret,

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