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posted by janrinok on Sunday September 29 2019, @03:55AM   Printer-friendly
from the I-forgot-what-the-plan-was dept.

Extreme policies lead to extreme outcomes.

Income inequality reached its highest level in more than half a century last year, as a record-long economic expansion continued to disproportionately benefit some of the wealthiest Americans.

A key measure of wealth distribution jumped to 0.485 in 2018, the Census Bureau said Thursday, its highest reading since the so-called Gini index was started in 1967. The gauge, which uses a scale between 0 and 1, stood at 0.482 a year earlier.

Work alone won't solve poverty—unless wages and earnings pick up substantially. It still takes government aid for families with children and others who do not earn enough, despite working 40 plus hours a week.

The most troubling thing about the new report, says William M. Rodgers III, a professor of public policy and chief economist at the Heldrich Center at Rutgers University, is that it "clearly illustrates the inability of the current economic expansion, the longest on record, to lessen inequality."

According to some research, US income inequality might be higher than it was during the Roman Empire, and pre-tax income inequality is as high as it was in the Roaring Twenties.

What Is to Blame?

Income inequality is blamed on cheap labor in China, unfair exchange rates, and jobs outsourcing. Corporations are often blamed for putting profits ahead of workers. But they must to remain competitive. U.S. companies must compete with lower-priced Chinese and Indian companies who pay their workers much less. As a result, many companies have outsourced their high-tech and manufacturing jobs overseas. The United States has lost 20 percent of its factory jobs since 2000. These were traditionally higher-paying union jobs.

Service jobs have increased, but these are much lower paid.

If current policies touted as "decreasing globalism" in the US economy are trying to reduce income inequality, they're failing.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday September 29 2019, @06:53AM (21 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday September 29 2019, @06:53AM (#900217) Journal

    Yeah? Try breaking into a corporate headquarters sometime, wiseass. You talk a lot but I see you doing jack and shit to change this situation.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Sunday September 29 2019, @06:59AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday September 29 2019, @06:59AM (#900221) Journal

    Try breaking into a corporate headquarters sometime, wiseass.

    As all the transactions and money are tracked electronically, it will make no difference.

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  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday September 29 2019, @07:38AM (14 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday September 29 2019, @07:38AM (#900227) Journal

    Your situation is your own doing. If you don't like it, you have to change it your own self. Much better than blaming others. Don't you think?

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    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Gaaark on Sunday September 29 2019, @01:14PM (13 children)

      by Gaaark (41) on Sunday September 29 2019, @01:14PM (#900279) Journal

      No: very much blaming the 'rich' gaming the system with 'lobbying' money to make it that the rich get richer just by existing, while the poor get poorer because they can't buy politicians.

      I'd love to see Elizabeth Warren get in and put the system back on a more fair playing level, but you won't see that because the rich won't let it...they've paid off too many people.
      Jeffrey Epstein saw that up close in his 'suicide'.

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      • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday September 29 2019, @04:38PM (11 children)

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday September 29 2019, @04:38PM (#900381) Journal

        Poor people elect politicians. They can't occupy the seat any other way. The vote has more power than the rich man's dollar. Without the vote, the dollar buys nothing.

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        • (Score: 5, Informative) by Gaaark on Sunday September 29 2019, @07:02PM (10 children)

          by Gaaark (41) on Sunday September 29 2019, @07:02PM (#900470) Journal

          But if everyone put out to vote on is corrupted by the rich, who is there to vote for but a corrupted person?

          Its not like everyone has money to run for election.

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          • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday September 29 2019, @07:12PM (9 children)

            by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday September 29 2019, @07:12PM (#900473) Journal

            We have a petition process for putting anybody we want on the ballot. Just needs lots of voters to participate. Unfortunately they would rather sit and let mass media spoon feed them. Easier to complain apparently.

            To tell the truth, congress should be like jury duty, in and out, nobody gets hurt. It can't be worse than what we are doing now.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 29 2019, @11:24PM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 29 2019, @11:24PM (#900597)

              It can't be worse than what we are doing now

              You sure? Wanna bet?

              • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday September 30 2019, @12:05AM (2 children)

                by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday September 30 2019, @12:05AM (#900615) Journal

                Sure! Bet ya a dollar! Let's do it!

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                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 30 2019, @08:22AM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 30 2019, @08:22AM (#900732)

                  Naw, not gonna get outta bed for one dolla.

                  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday September 30 2019, @03:48PM

                    by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday September 30 2019, @03:48PM (#900824) Journal

                    Why? You would only lose a dollar...

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            • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday September 30 2019, @06:59PM (4 children)

              by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday September 30 2019, @06:59PM (#900927)

              Congress _should_ be like jury duty, except - you'd need a couple of years experience to actually do a decent job, maybe 6-12 months OJT, followed by 1-2 years of active service to make the OJT worthwhile. Kinda hard on the day-job that lost you, but it would be a rare hit, maybe 1/100,000 lifetime chance.

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              • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday September 30 2019, @07:22PM (3 children)

                by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday September 30 2019, @07:22PM (#900944) Journal

                I would recommend basic combat training at Parris Island. The ones that don't wash out can handle the job. And we won't have to look at such greasy slobs on the TV.

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                • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday September 30 2019, @07:44PM (2 children)

                  by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday September 30 2019, @07:44PM (#900957)

                  Even more than that: there should be a cross-section of ages represented in Congress. If we're going to have a draft, make sure that the demographics of Congress more-or-less align with the demographics of the country, from age 18 through 80.

                  Requirements for basic education, lack of senility, at least average command of the English language, and we're done, pick the Congress by draft, maybe throw in the option for 2 re-elections - if the constituents like what the draftee is doing, they can stay for up to 6 years, otherwise a new one is picked at random. Same for the 6 year senate terms, previous congress critters can run for the senate, but they always run against a draft option on the ballot - should the voters know who the draftee will be? I don't think so.

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                  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday September 30 2019, @08:18PM (1 child)

                    by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday September 30 2019, @08:18PM (#900976) Journal

                    previous congress critters can run for the senate

                    Absolutely not... any desire for the job, and they are immediately disqualified. They have to understand, they do the gig, and then it's back to the farm. All guts, no glory. Enjoying the benefits of a well run society will be their reward.

                    if the constituents like what the draftee is doing, they can stay for up to 6 years

                    It would have to be a real consensus, not a mere majority, 85% in favor at least. I prefer the fast turnaround. It'll cut down on the slackers.

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                    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday September 30 2019, @10:24PM

                      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday September 30 2019, @10:24PM (#901007)

                      I think there's some benefit in the carrot of re-election, steering a representative to do what the people want not just what the rep thinks is best, and that should be balanced with some lame duckishness.

                      Also, I'd expect a lot of draftee congress critters to step down and not seek re-election, just because they're done with living in Washington D.C.

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      • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday September 30 2019, @06:35PM

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday September 30 2019, @06:35PM (#900908)

        the poor get poorer because they can't buy politicians

        Politicians are relatively cheap, it would appear that U.S. Senator Marco Rubio "got bought" for just a couple hundred thousand dollars, when a lobbyist bought his house from him for 2007 prices in 2009 (or something along those lines) and shortly after that Marco's vote changed in the lobbyist's favor. If a special interest group like Taco Bell employees got together, they could easily afford to buy the politicians.

        The problem is: you have to have much more money than it costs to buy a politician to make the purchase of the politician pay off for you. That $200K Rubio purchase swung a multi-million dollar land investment into millions more value than it had before Rubio's vote change.

        When the Taco Bell employees attempt to start buying politicians to get something like basic health insurance or somesuch, what they will find is that the opposing interest groups out-bid them - to a point where they may as well just buy private insurance instead, which they'll never afford - Game Over.

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday September 29 2019, @11:50AM (4 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday September 29 2019, @11:50AM (#900264) Journal

    Try breaking into a corporate headquarters sometime

    What would be the point of that exercise?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 29 2019, @09:07PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 29 2019, @09:07PM (#900522)

      Try breaking into a corporate headquarters sometime

      What would be the point of that exercise?

      To drag out the khallow, kicking and screaming, and find the records of how much they pay him to be an obvious apologist for them on SN. That's the point.

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday September 29 2019, @11:26PM (2 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday September 29 2019, @11:26PM (#900598) Journal

        And after that?

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        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday September 30 2019, @12:54AM (1 child)

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday September 30 2019, @12:54AM (#900634) Journal

          A barbecue!

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 30 2019, @03:30AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 30 2019, @03:30AM (#900657)

            I feel we can safely skip the "finding records" preliminaries and jump straight to the BBQ. I'm sorta thirsty