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posted by martyb on Monday October 07 2019, @01:34PM   Printer-friendly
from the good-luck-with-that dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

Working-level nuclear talks in Sweden between officials from Pyongyang and Washington have broken off, North Korea's top negotiator has said, dashing prospects for an end to months of stalemate.

The talks, at an isolated conference centre on the outskirts of Stockholm, were the first such formal discussions since US President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un met in June and agreed to restart negotiations that stalled after a failed summit in Vietnam in February.

The North's chief nuclear negotiator, Kim Myong Gil, who spent much of the day in talks with an American delegation, cast the blame on what he portrayed as US inflexibility, saying the other side's negotiators would not "give up their old viewpoint and attitude".

"The negotiations have not fulfilled our expectation and finally broke off," Kim told reporters outside the North Korean embassy, speaking through an interpreter.

The US State Department said Kim's comments did not reflect "the content or spirit" of nearly nine hours of talks, and Washington had accepted Sweden's invitation to return for more discussions with Pyongyang in two weeks.

"The US brought creative ideas and had good discussions with its DPRK counterparts," spokeswoman Morgan Ortagus said in a statement. North Korea is also known as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK).

She said the US delegation had previewed a number of new initiatives that would pave the way for progress in the talks, and underscored the importance of more intensive engagement.

[...] On Saturday, negotiator Kim accused the US of having no intention of solving difficulties through dialogue, but said a complete denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula was still possible.

It would only happen "when all the obstacles that threaten our safety and check our development are removed completely without a shadow of doubt," he said, in an apparent reference to North Korea's desire for Washington to ease economic pressure.

On Sunday, China's President Xi Jinping and the North's leader exchanged messages to reaffirm the neighbours' relationship on the 70th anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic ties. China is the North's only major ally.


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 07 2019, @06:57PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 07 2019, @06:57PM (#903816)

    You need to pull your head out of your ass and see the obvious facts sitting in front of your face. Instead you are listening to Fox news and other such notoriously unrtruthful sources blatantly pushing propaganda to US citizens.

    Their tactics are straight out of fascist strategy books and you're being used as a useful fool. The vast majority of the US sees what is happening because it has become glaringly obvious, while most conservatives are working themselves up to LITERAL civil war.

    I just can't fathom this level of insanity where people ignore all the very obvious facts in place of a verified fraudster's promises. It just boggles. His crimes have been public which seems to have been a truly brilliant move that bypassed conservstive's critical thinking process.

    You are cheering on the collapse of the US and apparently have no clue that is what you are doing. Or, even worse, you DO know but you care more about your team "winning" i stead of the ideals of freedom and democracy.

    This is reality eadily understood once you don't assume Fox etc. are telling you the truth. Hell, Chris Wallace is getting fed up and Shep Smith has been turned on for bothering to have an ounce of journalistic integrity. Fucking insanity.

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  • (Score: 1) by Arik on Monday October 07 2019, @07:17PM (4 children)

    by Arik (4543) on Monday October 07 2019, @07:17PM (#903824) Journal
    Projection and nonsense from beginning to end.

    I'm not a TV News guy, I can't remember the last time I watched Faux. I don't even own a TV, I have no use for one. I read. I read AP, I read Reuters, I read dozens of regional and local papers, I read academic papers, I read narratives from activists and partisans on all sides.

    What you see on TV, regardless of channel, is 99% nonsense. I don't rely on any of it.
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 07 2019, @09:03PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 07 2019, @09:03PM (#903845)

      Then your position makes no sense unless you're a shill or an idiot. Do you not believe the President is capable of obstructing justice? Do you really think the Mueller report expnerated Trump? Do you think it is ok to threaten the death penalty for treason to a whistleblower trying to alert THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT about wrong doing? You know, the not-possibly-treason sort of thing? Do you think we should jail Schiff because Trump doesn't like being investigated?

      • (Score: 1) by Arik on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:13AM

        by Arik (4543) on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:13AM (#903957) Journal
        "Then your position makes no sense unless you're a shill or an idiot."

        Quit looking in the mirror, I'm over here.

        "Do you not believe the President is capable of obstructing justice?"

        Of course he is. Now show me some evidence he's actually done so?

        Oh, that's right, you can't. You'll just wave your hands and scream some more.

        "Do you really think the Mueller report expnerated Trump?"

        Again, an investigation of this nature never exonerates anyone. It only finds, or fails to find, cause to charge someone. It found no such cause. That's not an exoneration - but an exoneration is not a possibility in such a situation. It's illogical to demand milk from a hen.

        The rest of this pap is even worse. You're just circle-jerking yourself with nonsense.
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 07 2019, @09:43PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 07 2019, @09:43PM (#903852)

      So you rely on breitbart then?

      Also regarding abuse of office, Trump claimed he was spied upon and made a big stink about the kind of things he is doing right now. Gee, I wonder why we never hesrd about those "illegal wiretaps" he complained about, I mean as prez he should have been able to find out if they occurred right? Couldn't be that he is a total liar who makes up stories to suit whatever his cirrent need is. No, definitely not that :/

      • (Score: 2) by Arik on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:15AM

        by Arik (4543) on Tuesday October 08 2019, @04:15AM (#903959) Journal
        "So you rely on breitbart then?"

        Nope. Been months since I even followed a link there.

        What is this obsession with identifying what media I follow rather than engaging with what I'm actually saying, huh?
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