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posted by martyb on Monday October 07 2019, @11:22PM   Printer-friendly
from the haven't-you-changed-yet? dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story from RIPE (Réseaux IP Européens):

Today we allocated the last of our contiguous /22 IPv4 address blocks. We still have approximately one million addresses available, in the form of /23s and /24s, and we will continue making /22-equivalent allocations made up of these smaller blocks. Once we can no longer allocate the equivalent of a /22, we will announce that we have reached run-out. We expect this to occur in November 2019.

Following our last update in August, we received a very high number of new LIR[*] applications. We have now reached a point where the number of LIRs waiting to be activated is larger than the number of /22-equivalents remaining. This means that some of these LIRs will only be eligible to request a /24 via the waiting list by the time they are activated. We alerted these applicants to this possibility during the application process.

Due to the number of new LIR applications still to be processed, we estimate that it could be around eight weeks before we get to an application that is submitted today. To ensure fairness, we are processing all LIR applications (and IPv4 requests) in the order they were received.

It is important to note that the delay is only with LIR applications - not IPv4 requests. Existing members can still request their final /22 allocations, provided we still have addresses available.

[*] LIR: Local Internet Registry.

What, if any, measures have you taken to deal with this?


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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @02:05AM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @02:05AM (#903932)

    I keep hearing that IPv4 addresses have *just* ran out, especially from RIPE's press releases, for what seems to be a decade now.
    Pretty sure I could get a real address on demand for under $10 per month.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @02:30AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @02:30AM (#903940)

    They ran out of blocks to assign. Those who received the blocks are more than willing to flog individual IPs, from those blocks they bought, off to you...

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @03:28AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @03:28AM (#903952)

    No one needs an IP4 block. wheatear it is a /24 /20 /16 or greater. It is time to take back the IPs from waste space of Disney, AT&T, Google, ... Just waste them fo so each desktop as it own "real" ip.

    Come on 10.0.0.0 /8 has more IPs than a company needs. Help 127.0.0.0 /8 is a waste of space.

    Just liek thephone company broke the rules that make Area Codes and Prefixes independent (Area codes n[0-1]n, prefixes n[2-9]n) Do the same here...

    Clean up the mess vs changing the world.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @05:48AM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @05:48AM (#903980)

      4.3 billion ain't enough. It's time to put IPv4 down already.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by janrinok on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:46AM (4 children)

        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 08 2019, @06:46AM (#903994) Journal

        Agreed. I am using at least 17 addresses inside my home, and that number is set to grow. I say 'at least' because there are probably some devices that I have simply forgotten to count. I've remembered our desktops, laptop, TV, Raspberry Pi's, set-top boxes, medical alert device, security cameras, Kindle .....

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @07:56AM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @07:56AM (#904005)

          With as much as people complain about different services tracking them, you'll think the last thing they'd want is each and every device having its own globally-unique address.

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by janrinok on Tuesday October 08 2019, @08:34AM

            by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 08 2019, @08:34AM (#904009) Journal

            So don't you have a mobile/cell phone? Do you use credit or debit cards, or store loyalty cards? Do you keep them in an RFI protected wallet? Do you always wear a mask when you are outdoors in case anyone sees you or you come into range of a camera? Do you use Amazon, or a subscription to a media provider? Do you drive cars only if the registration is obscured, or perhaps hire cars and hope that whomever you hire them from forgets your details as soon as you return the vehicle?

            If you want to hide your IP address you can use VPN or proxy server, exactly as we have been doing for years. After all, your ISP always knows your IP address whatever you are doing. It is not a secret that only you know. That's why we hash IP addresses on this site - they are a unique identifier to you. So we use them only where necessary, and we convert them to hashes for internal use. Not even all of the staff have access to them.

            I understand your concern - but that horse is long gone from the stable.

          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @08:47AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @08:47AM (#904010)

            A sea of nearly infinite IP addresses offers a lot of places to hide.

            Using IPv4 for anonymity/plausible deniability (multiple people to each IP address) is not that great. If you use a VPN then IPv4 and IPv6 should be similar for privacy. Or IPv6 can be better if your VPN service can find a way to use the large amount of addresses to their advantage.

            • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @07:59PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @07:59PM (#904286)

              IPv6 has support for temporary addresses built in to address this exact issue.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @02:34PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @02:34PM (#904095)

      you know that several of the reserved blocks are being reallocated to common use as some companies are releasing part of their ip pool already (but of course, as they had those IPs, several of then are using IPs all over the place and may not be that easy to reconfigure everything.)

      But again, this is just a quick fix, to push the problems a few moths later... there is simply not enough IPs for everything and nats over nats will break many things, not everything is just https!!

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @02:12PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 08 2019, @02:12PM (#904081)

    How many times have the Voyager probes left the solar system?