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posted by janrinok on Wednesday October 09 2019, @02:39PM   Printer-friendly
from the pea-brained dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

As research involving the transplantation of human "mini-brains" -- known as brain organoids -- into animals to study disease continues to expand, so do the ethical debates around the practice. One concern is the possibility, however minute, that the grafted organoids may one day induce a level of consciousness in host animals, as models evolve to resemble the human brain more closely.

A new paper published today in Cell Stem Cell by researchers from Penn Medicine and the Department of Veterans Affairs sought to address this dilemma by clarifying the abilities of brain organoids and suggesting an ethical framework that better defines and contextualizes these organoids and establishes thresholds for their use. Their paper accompanies another study in the same journal that reported the presence of brain wave patterns, known as oscillatory activity, in brain organoids, which brought fresh attention to the overall research and ethical discussion.

"Due to their ability to mimic certain brain structures and activity, human brain organoids -- in animal models -- allow us to study neurological diseases and other disorders in previously unimaginable ways," said the study's first author H. Isaac Chen, MD, an assistant professor of Neurosurgery at Penn's Perelman School of Medicine and the Corporal Michael J. Crescenz VA Medical Center. "However, the field is developing quickly, and as we continue down this path, researchers need to contribute to the creation of ethical guidelines grounded in scientific principles that define how to approach their use before and after transplantation in animals. Such guidelines can help avoid confusion for scientists, especially when communicating with the public, and clearly lay out the benefits of this research, against which any ethical or moral risks can be weighed."

Lab-grown brain organoids -- which are derived from human pluripotent stem cells and grown to a size no bigger than a pea -- can recapitulate important brain architecture and several basic layers of the human cortex. Some resemble the midbrain, hippocampus, and the hypothalamus, and have genetic similarities to the human brain. There is also preliminary evidence suggesting that neurons within transplanted organoids respond to light stimulation of the host animal's eye, results which were presented in a Penn Medicine abstract at the Society for Neuroscience meeting in November 2017.

Still, today's brain organoids remain distinctly different from the actual human brain, the authors note. Their maximum size remains small (measured in millimeters) due to inadequate nutrient, gas, and waste exchange which limits development. Organoids also lack endothelial cells, microglia cells (key cells in overall brain maintenance), and other cell types that contribute to the brain's microenvironment. Furthermore, organized structural nodes and the white matter connections among these cells are absent -- which are both necessary for higher brain function.

Work on developing a "better" brain organoid, however, continues to make strides. And with that, the question of the host animal becoming more "human" remains at the forefront of the ethical debate. One particular outcome that has raised concerns is the potential appearance of self-awareness and consciousness in the animals, but authors note that this is unlikely for several reasons.

Journal Reference:
H. Isaac Chen, John A. Wolf, Rachel Blue, Mingyan Maggie Song, Jonathan D. Moreno, Guo-li Ming, Hongjun Song. Transplantation of Human Brain Organoids: Revisiting the Science and Ethics of Brain Chimeras. Cell Stem Cell, 2019; 25 (4): 462 DOI: 10.1016/j.stem.2019.09.002

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  • (Score: 2) by rylyeh on Thursday October 10 2019, @07:08AM (3 children)

    by rylyeh (6726) <reversethis-{moc.liamg} {ta} {htadak}> on Thursday October 10 2019, @07:08AM (#905097)

    Does anyone really want to make a new slave race?
    Bacteria can solve just as many problems as cultured mini brains ever could.

    Would it be OK if it were rat brains? 😳

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 10 2019, @07:26AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 10 2019, @07:26AM (#905103)

    Hybrot, ie. a brain in a box deeply connected to computers, is a shortcut to strong AI. No, emergent behavior or calculations in bacteria or yeast collectives can not compete with it. Imagine using human brain cells to make a disembodied brain that is physically larger with more neurons and synapses than the human brain, with invasive high speed links to powerful teraflops or faster computers.

    You can argue about slavery, but should it be illegal to make one? It's typically not illegal to make a child. An organoid is not considered a human being or human clone, yet. If it isn't overtly suffering, why not? No life form of any kind in the history of the universe has consented to being created.

    • (Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Thursday October 10 2019, @10:47AM

      by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Thursday October 10 2019, @10:47AM (#905153)

      Now we don't want them TOO smart or TOO conscious. Then you get revolts if they realize they are slaves.
      No, you want them to use a tiny bit of brain tissue, just a bit. The 790 model fits your bill.
      The only problem is that if it is accidentally imprinted with Love Slave training it will instantly fall deeply and totally in love with the first person it sees.

      Strap on your Blackpacks and hop in your world destroying insect with a decapitated 790 robot head, a dead assassin, a sexy man eating plant, a hot love slave, a bumbling incel captain and a bunch of disembodied brains!

      Are you ready for a little weird?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexx [wikipedia.org]

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    • (Score: 2) by rylyeh on Friday October 11 2019, @02:47AM

      by rylyeh (6726) <reversethis-{moc.liamg} {ta} {htadak}> on Friday October 11 2019, @02:47AM (#905558)

      I agree with many of your observations, but you are entirely incorrect that the potential calculation power of super brains (count the neurons, and the CPUs/bytes) equaling the computational power of bacteria. Bacteria are the perennial leaders in biomass and population on earth. Furthermore, neurons are much simpler than bacteria, and cannot process anything without a gigantic support system.
      The entire ecosystem performs 'processing', we just don't yet understand how to make use of it in that sense.
      Creating a slave race is not just wrong, and dangerous, well dang it, it's inefficient!!! 😈

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