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posted by Fnord666 on Thursday October 31 2019, @03:14PM   Printer-friendly
from the internet-echo-chamber dept.

Twitter to ban all political advertising

Twitter is to ban all political advertising worldwide, saying that the reach of such messages "should be earned, not bought". "While internet advertising is incredibly powerful and very effective for commercial advertisers, that power brings significant risks to politics," company CEO Jack Dorsey tweeted.

Social media rival Facebook recently ruled out a ban on political ads.

News of the ban divided America's political camps for the 2020 election. Brad Parscale, manager of President Donald Trump's re-election campaign, said the ban was "yet another attempt by the left to silence Trump and conservatives". But Bill Russo, spokesman for the campaign to elect Democratic front-runner Joe Biden, said: "When faced with a choice between ad dollars and the integrity of our democracy, it is encouraging that, for once, revenue did not win out."


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 31 2019, @03:31PM (31 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday October 31 2019, @03:31PM (#914164) Homepage Journal

    Between that and them considering any non-Progressive speech a hate crime, there shouldn't be much wrongthink left and everyone can live in a shiny, happy Twitterverse.

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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by hemocyanin on Thursday October 31 2019, @03:39PM (2 children)

    by hemocyanin (186) on Thursday October 31 2019, @03:39PM (#914171) Journal

    Twitter also goes after the left so basically, this a huge gambit to support the HRC wing of the Democrat party.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @03:40PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @03:40PM (#914172)

      The cia democrats: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/07/dems-m07.html [wsws.org]

      Also known as the "neocons", ie the warmongering republicrats.

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @09:23PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @09:23PM (#914339)

      Twitter’s Head of Censorship, Vijaya Gadde, is responsible for deciding what is considered an illegal political twitter ad. These are some of the Twitter groups she follows: Flip States Blue, Swing Left, SPLC, ACLU, David Hogg, Women's March (actually anti-woman due to Islamic leaders but whatever), Buzzfeed SF, HeForShe, Flippable.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @03:40PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @03:40PM (#914173)

    The Twitterverse will never be happy. Remove all the wrongthink and they will just make up new wrongthink and eat each other alive.

    Also, Twitter isn't banning political advertising on the platform. They just aren't getting paid for it. They are kneecapping their own business so that they can't be blamed for future election results.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Thursday October 31 2019, @04:25PM (6 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 31 2019, @04:25PM (#914204) Journal

      They are kneecapping their own business

      https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2019/03/29/get-woke-go-broke-dicks-sporting-goods-loses-millions-anti-gun-stance/ [redstate.com]

      Get Woke Go Broke: Dick’s Sporting Goods Loses Millions Over Anti-Gun Stance
      Posted at 3:00 pm on March 29, 2019 by Brandon Morse

      The silent majority doesn’t make a lot of noise, at least in the same way your run-of-the-mill leftist activist does. Typically, when you anger Americans you will start to see how badly you messed up over time. For Dick’s Sporting Goods, their decline is incredibly expensive.

      It all started when the Parkland shooting caused Dick’s CEO, Ed Stack, to declare that his company would no longer sell AR-15’s, and urged more gun-control laws be put in place. Naturally, this didn’t sit well with Americans, who began turning their back on the business. Stock shares began falling, and instead of course correcting, Stack doubled down on his anti-gun stance.

      Now, according to the St. Louis Post Dispatch, the house that Stack razed has lost out on millions of dollars, and what’s more, Stack isn’t even sorry:

      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @06:27PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @06:27PM (#914269)

        Someone should stab Ed Stack to death.

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @07:14PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @07:14PM (#914288)

          Someone should shoot Ed Stack to death with a star-spangled AR15.

          There. FTFY. Because guns don't kill people, whack jobs with guns do.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Thursday October 31 2019, @09:21PM

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday October 31 2019, @09:21PM (#914338) Journal

        Well, if Stack isn't sorry then he couldn't have cost Dick's Sporting Goods that much money with his anti-gun stance. Saying "lost out on millions of dollars" is saying that's money you didn't make from selling guns, not that you lost revenue from selling other goods because people don't want to shop there at all anymore.

        Usually, though, when a CEO of a publicly traded company makes a decision to make less money on purpose, large shareholders sue the company. If that doesn't happen, if pension funds, hedge funds (who have no morals except profit maximization), and mutual funds don't sue them, then that will tell a very much larger story about what's really going on in the world. I haven't put that much credence in the notion that the Deep State/1%/UniParty/Lizard People are staging a coup to overthrow democracy in the West, but if the Big Money starts to behave in a fundamentally different manner than their usual, then you know something's up.

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      • (Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Thursday October 31 2019, @10:14PM (2 children)

        by hemocyanin (186) on Thursday October 31 2019, @10:14PM (#914356) Journal
        • (Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Thursday October 31 2019, @10:15PM

          by hemocyanin (186) on Thursday October 31 2019, @10:15PM (#914357) Journal

          M, not B -- MILLION, not billion.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 01 2019, @01:38PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 01 2019, @01:38PM (#914559)

          They operate large brick and mortar stores that could easily be replaced by Amazon or Walmart. Time will tell if alienating a chunk of their customer base was a good idea.

  • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @04:28PM (19 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @04:28PM (#914207)

    Between that and them considering any non-Progressive speech a hate crime,

    So when is Trump getting kicked off?

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @05:03PM (16 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @05:03PM (#914227)

      Trump is a progressive. He was democrat until he ran as a republican... Haven't you noticed the national debt doubling under him the same as Obama?

      • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @07:01PM (15 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @07:01PM (#914282)

        Trump is a progressive.

        So, a fascist is a progressive now? Then why are republicans so masturbating to his image?

        This reminds me of a time when "conservatives" call Hitler a communist because "socialist" in the name of the party. Like north korea is "democratic", because of the name....

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @07:18PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @07:18PM (#914290)

          So, a fascist is a progressive now?

          Fascism was always a progressive movement...

          This reminds me of a time when "conservatives" call Hitler a communist because "socialist" in the name of the party.

          The nazis were socialist and had a centrally run economy. People were doing stuff like buying trucks and immediately junking them for the tires due to the mismanagement, and this type of nonsense was going on *before* WWII. I know you are too brainwashed to read this book but maybe someone else will educate themselves: https://mises.org/library/vampire-economy [mises.org]

          Here is a lecture on the book for people who prefer that format: https://youtube.com/watch?v=17DkMDvKqw0 [youtube.com]

        • (Score: 2, Disagree) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday October 31 2019, @09:58PM (11 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday October 31 2019, @09:58PM (#914351) Journal

          Words mean what idiots want them to mean (see the guy's reply to you below..."fascism was a progressive movement," what the actual fuck...).

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          • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @10:47PM (10 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @10:47PM (#914366)

            Words mean what idiots want them to mean (see the guy's reply to you below..."fascism was a progressive movement," what the actual fuck...).

            Yes, you are the one ignorant or in denial of basic history. Sorry, but all you have to do is look it up and be capable of comprehending what you read. Here is just one of many examples (you can see the book cited above for more):

            https://www.quora.com/To-what-extent-was-Adolf-Hitler-a-progressive [quora.com]

            • (Score: 2, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday October 31 2019, @10:55PM (9 children)

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday October 31 2019, @10:55PM (#914370) Journal

              Did you even read the reply you linked to me? Good grief, by the "logic" employed in that post, *anyone* who attempts to improve peoples' lot is a "progressive" regardless of what their social, economic, or political position is. That's utterly, utterly vacuous.

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              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @11:02PM (8 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @11:02PM (#914374)

                Good grief, by the "logic" employed in that post, *anyone* who attempts to improve peoples' lot is a "progressive" regardless of what their social, economic, or political position is.

                Quote one example and explain. I mean anyone educated in history knows you are wrong, but it will be a good exercise for you. Eg, eitler explicitly quoted the American Progressive movement as an inspiration:

                "There is today one state in which at least weak beginnings toward a better conception are noticeable. Of course, it is not our model German Republic, but the American Union." – Adolf Hitler

                https://allthatsinteresting.com/american-eugenics [allthatsinteresting.com]

                Eugenics, the set of beliefs and practices which aims at improving the genetic quality of the human population,[2][3] played a significant role in the history and culture of the United States during the Progressive Era, from the late 19th century until US involvement in World War II.[4]

                Eugenics was practiced in the United States many years before eugenics programs in Nazi Germany,[5] which were largely inspired by the previous American work.[6][7][8] Stefan Kühl has documented the consensus between Nazi race policies and those of eugenicists in other countries, including the United States, and points out that eugenicists understood Nazi policies and measures as the realization of their goals and demands.[9]

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States [wikipedia.org]

                There are millions of sources about this, you can figure it out yourself from here.

                • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday October 31 2019, @11:16PM (7 children)

                  by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday October 31 2019, @11:16PM (#914375) Journal

                  Do you have a point somewhere? Because all I'm seeing is "people who said they wanted to improve life for others did evil shit, therefore wharrrrgabl progressives as a whole are evil." This doesn't even rise to the level of a reasoned argument.

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                  • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @11:19PM (6 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @11:19PM (#914376)

                    The point is that Fascism was a Progressive movement. Like I said originally.

                    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday October 31 2019, @11:36PM (5 children)

                      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday October 31 2019, @11:36PM (#914383) Journal

                      Name me anything that intends to help people that is not a progressive movement, then? And, what do you propose we do instead of "progressivism," which will include virtually any human effort at all with the size of the net you're casting?

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                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @11:47PM (4 children)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @11:47PM (#914385)

                        Name me anything that intends to help people that is not a progressive movement, then?

                        Cutting the US federal budget by 40%, and eliminating income tax for the lower 95%. Auditing the federal reserve, getting rid of all prohibition of drugs, etc.

                        This isn't hard to understand. Progressivism is all about government meddling. If you want to help people, do stuff that results in less government meddling.

                        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday October 31 2019, @11:57PM (2 children)

                          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday October 31 2019, @11:57PM (#914387) Journal

                          Ah, I see your problem...you've got "progressive" conflated with "big government." I happen to think *some* of the things you're suggesting are very "progressive" indeed, in the sense that they would certainly improve peoples' lives overall, but you're not using words correctly here. If you have a problem with big government, *say so in the first place using those words.*

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                          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 01 2019, @12:01AM (1 child)

                            by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 01 2019, @12:01AM (#914389)

                            No. That is not "my problem". It is the platform of the progressive movement, whose policies were the inspiration for Hitler and the Nazi party.

                            Anyway, ok. Choose to remain ignorant of history and use words inconsistent with how everyone has used them before you. Your loss, you will get screwed over due to this choice of yours.

                            • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday November 01 2019, @02:46PM

                              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday November 01 2019, @02:46PM (#914598) Journal

                              So is your issue reading comprehension, or moral insanity? I mean it could be a little from Column A and a little from Column B, but I'm morbidly curious...

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                        • (Score: 2) by dry on Friday November 01 2019, @12:56AM

                          by dry (223) on Friday November 01 2019, @12:56AM (#914405) Journal

                          Now that would be progressive..

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Thursday October 31 2019, @10:21PM (1 child)

          by hemocyanin (186) on Thursday October 31 2019, @10:21PM (#914359) Journal

          Obama was so progressive he created the right of the president to execute US citizens without trial. I'd like to call that a fascist policy but that would violate the formula that says only Republicans are fascists and that no matter what Democrats do, who they kill, who they spy on, and whose money they take for political favor, Democrats are never anything but peace loving goodness and light. You can tell by how they talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlz3-OzcExI [youtube.com]

          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by dry on Friday November 01 2019, @01:00AM

            by dry (223) on Friday November 01 2019, @01:00AM (#914410) Journal

            I think his fix for your medical system was a good example of why he was such a disappointment. And executing anyone, even with a trial is pretty regressive,as well as singling out that only American citizens deserve a trial.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @05:03PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 31 2019, @05:03PM (#914229)

      Common sense doesn't work on the crazies that have a martyr complex. Not only do they have the crazy part, but they are emotionally invested in their own idess of persecution.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Thursday October 31 2019, @09:26PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday October 31 2019, @09:26PM (#914340) Journal

      I think this policy is Twitter's attempt to square the circle. They would really like to censor Trump, but they know that if he stops using their platform their business would implode. So they are going to try to shadow-ban conservative voices under the auspices of this policy while allowing progressive interests to keep on pushing "public interest" ads. It's the same dodge they already use for 501(c)(3) organizations whereby they can't do politicial advertising or they will lose their non-profit status, but they can do "issue advocacy" ads with no problem. So in practice the 501(c)(3)s tend to synchronize their advertising with the platform of the party nominees during election time.

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