https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50246324
"The US House of Representatives has passed a resolution to formally proceed with the impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump.
The measure details how the inquiry will move into a more public phase. It was not a vote on whether the president should be removed from office.
This was the first test of support in the Democratic-controlled House for the impeachment process.
The White House condemned the vote, which passed along party lines.
Only two Democrats - representing districts that Mr Trump won handily in 2016 - voted against the resolution, along with all Republicans, for a total count of 232 in favour and 196 against."
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 01 2019, @03:47PM (3 children)
I look at the timeline of events in Ukraine. I can't argue the stem was in Obama's presidency. But, I wonder how much of the root system was planted during the Bush administration. The shit didn't really hit the fan until 2010, but all the players were in place long before that. And, the Kock brothers were hovering right there, ready to swoop in like a pair of vultures to pick the carcass.
(Score: 2, Informative) by fustakrakich on Friday November 01 2019, @05:17PM (1 child)
Europe and Russia have been interested in Ukraine for a thousand years or more. This is a very old war
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 01 2019, @05:23PM
So, that root has tapped deeply into Ukraine? Sounds so vulgar, doesn't it? ;^)
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 02 2019, @05:45AM
Like others have mentioned this probably goes back much further. Ukraine has always has a troubled relationship with Russia dating back (in modern times) to at least the 1930s. Even during WW2 some in Ukraine initially aimed to side with Hitler seeing their invasion as a liberation from communist control. That history alongside extensive nationalists efforts throughout history is where the slur of Ukrainians as fascists (as said by Russians) derives from. As an interesting aside there is even a nuance here in the Russian language itself. Most of all countries you use the preposition "in" - in America, in Russia, in Bulgaria, etc. But Ukraine, the term of which can translate to something like the borderlands in Russian, uses the preposition "on" - on the grass, on the tree, on the borderlands.
Suffice to say, ethnic Ukrainians are not fond of this distinction and it's still somewhat of a language 'jab' even if not necessarily intended as such. This is also the reason that, I doubt most are aware, but why many use phrasing such as "He's from the Uraine." as opposed to "He's from Ukraine." At some point the meaning of the word leaked through the languages in a rather subtle way. I decided to learn Russian following our recent efforts at creating a new Red Scare to try to see what the other side was saying. Not exactly fluent yet (to say the least), but it's a beautiful language. And it's also quite interesting how different the standard of online discourse is in a different language. It emphasizes that there's either something really wrong with us or, and much more likely in my opinion, how polluted our discourse is by government and corporate actors alongside their useful idiots, to quite ironically, use a term likely coined by Lenin in his efforts to manipulate the soviet population.