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"The US House of Representatives has passed a resolution to formally proceed with the impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump.
The measure details how the inquiry will move into a more public phase. It was not a vote on whether the president should be removed from office.
This was the first test of support in the Democratic-controlled House for the impeachment process.
The White House condemned the vote, which passed along party lines.
Only two Democrats - representing districts that Mr Trump won handily in 2016 - voted against the resolution, along with all Republicans, for a total count of 232 in favour and 196 against."
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(Score: 2, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 01 2019, @05:02PM (8 children)
I feel that slippery slope here, but I'll try - - -
An "atrocity" in our western society is pretty easy to define. An "atrocity" in the Mid-east is something else. I don't think that any of us, who grew up outside of that tribal culture can truly understand it. In their views, it's pretty much acceptable to kill off the population of a village filled with rivals. Or, better yet, kill off the men, and steal their women, their goats, their camels, and rape their sons. That is the apex of civilization in the Mid-east.
It is for this reason that Saddam Hussein can be credited with maintaining stability. He was hated, but his methods earned respect among his peers.
Now, please don't presume that I "like" that. Or that I "approve" of it. I am merely stating fact, as clearly as I am able to. Arabs, Persians, and most of the rest of those people are NOT Christian, not western, not Euro, not American. The thing that ties most all of them together, is their history under the Ottoman. The Ottoman nurtured this tribalism.
Bleahhhh - I'm not walking any further out on that slippery slope unless you insist, and I may not then . . .
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Friday November 01 2019, @05:33PM (4 children)
Yeah, thanks, it's very very complicated, with deep cultural roots, norms and values very different from Western, such that we Westerners just can't empathize or understand.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Monday November 04 2019, @08:10PM (3 children)
No, it's understandable and can even be empathasized with. But it takes a heck of a lot more study, dedicated academic study, than what soundbite news will tell one. Just like thinking that because one has been to Virginia and Kentucky and watched HBO one understands and empathizes with the Hatfields and McCoys.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by RS3 on Monday November 04 2019, @11:02PM (2 children)
I agree with you. In my effort to be brief, I often fail to write that which seems obvious to me: yes, sure, given enough time and mental focus, most people could understand it, but too many have other priorities. As you described it well, they just accept what they hear in news soundbites, and miss much (most?) of the underlying story. "Popular misconception" is too prevalent in society.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Tuesday November 05 2019, @11:37PM (1 child)
Yeah and you do have the core that even if the situation is understandable not many will produce the effort to do so, and people will continue to make judgments without all the information. And no, one can't know everything about everything within a lifetime, either.
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(Score: 2) by RS3 on Wednesday November 06 2019, @02:47AM
Right there's the problem (that bugs me much- overconfidence!)
But that said, how does a reasonable person know when they know enough about something to have valid opinions, worthy of sharing them such that others are enriched and society maybe enhanced?
(ugh, me the non-philosopher...)
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 01 2019, @06:14PM
I've never forgiven them for that terrorist group Al Gebra.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 01 2019, @06:29PM (1 child)
Oh NOes! Lookout! Runnyway is getting aroused!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 01 2019, @11:29PM
Runaway is only interested in getting peoples' goats.