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posted by martyb on Friday November 01 2019, @02:18PM   Printer-friendly
from the Red-Queen-Race dept.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50246324

"The US House of Representatives has passed a resolution to formally proceed with the impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump.

The measure details how the inquiry will move into a more public phase. It was not a vote on whether the president should be removed from office.

This was the first test of support in the Democratic-controlled House for the impeachment process.

The White House condemned the vote, which passed along party lines.

Only two Democrats - representing districts that Mr Trump won handily in 2016 - voted against the resolution, along with all Republicans, for a total count of 232 in favour and 196 against."


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by edIII on Friday November 01 2019, @06:39PM (5 children)

    by edIII (791) on Friday November 01 2019, @06:39PM (#914732)

    What they don't seem to realize is that they are only pissing his base off. They don't have any impeachable offenses, not even close. If they start public investigating of all the sordid details from the Ukraine, for example, they will definitely find dirty laundry. The problem is: it's likely to stem from Obama's presidency.

    Wow, you Trumpers are so full of shit, that we could use said shit to power the planet for the next 1000 years. Trump could be butt-fucking your wife while slitting the throats of your children, and you would STILL be excusing his behavior. "The wife was naggy, and the children were insolent, and just look at his remarkable accomplishments!"

    1) It doesn't stem from Obama's presidency. Not even likely. It's 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000% Trump. They've flat out admitted to the substance of the impeachment claim. It's not even in question that he did it.
    2) Obama's presidency, and your clear allusions to Biden, are a separate issue.
    3) It was 10000000000000000000000000000000000000% an impeachable offense.

    What was done again? Lemme see:
    1) Held up Congressionally pre-approved military aid to a country that is in contention with Russia.
    2) DEMANDED that the highest authority in that country investigate his political rival in order to receive said aid.
    3) Hid the evidence the very moment people started questioning what happened.

    That is not the actions of the innocent, but actions of a President in clear violation of his oath of office. Did Orange Anus have other options? You bet he fucking did. He had to be a mafia boss tough guy handling the "massive corruption" of the deep state all by himself. That was highly inappropriate. He could've called for a press conference, stated the corruption, and then demanded CONGRESS investigate it. He could've publicly come out with the facts as he knew it. Even if he was wrong, it would've been a whole different story to do it out in the open in the press, and most importantly, it would not be Orange Anus doing anything. There was an appropriate governing body that handles these sorts of things, and Orange Anus could've followed PROCEDURE. You Republicans love procedure over substance right?

    None of that happened because Biden was already cleared, and it wasn't about corruption, but manipulating elections. If Trump can't be impeached for this clearly impeachable behavior, then the America we know is absolutely dead. Democracy has died.

    I'm of the position that the corrupt fucker could be impeached for the Emoluments Clause alone. It's amazing that you delusional partisan trolls are okay with massive payoffs in the hundreds of millions going to his family. Republicans lost their shit in the 70s and demanded President Carter sell a small fucking peanut farm to satisfy the Emoluments Clause, but a Republican President can have foreign delegations spending millions to rent out rooms and property that clearly provide profit.

    You guys have zero respect left from me. I used to be able to at least respect some Republicans and their viewpoints, but after this, the Republican party deserves to die and be replaced again.

    Don't mind me. Keep your head stuck firmly up your ass because you can't stand the thought of no longer "winning".

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 01 2019, @07:24PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 01 2019, @07:24PM (#914767)

    You should spend some time investigating Biden and his son

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 01 2019, @08:19PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 01 2019, @08:19PM (#914798)

      Two wrongs do not make a right. Or to put it another way, "But all the other kids were doing it too" is not a valid defense when children misbehave, so why in the world would it be a valid defense for anybody older?

      I hear it from my kids, and it fails to fly.
      I hear it from developers too lazy to follow good coding practices or basic security / due diligence.
      I hear it from politicians.

      I'm tired of hearing it. I don't care if Johnny did it too - I expect Johnny's parents to punish him, just like I have to punish you. You screwed up, you need to accept the consequences.

      Sadly, I'm not allowed to put developers or politicians into Time Out and take away their toys until they learn to play nicely.

    • (Score: 2) by edIII on Friday November 01 2019, @09:44PM

      by edIII (791) on Friday November 01 2019, @09:44PM (#914822)

      Why? This was already investigated by both the United States and the Ukraine. Biden and his son were cleared. I don't need to do shit.

      Now, do you know who *should* be doing something about it? CONGRESS!!! They investigated Hillary how many fucking times again?

      No, the appropriate action was:

      1) A press conference. The President of the United States stands up and lays out his claims and states that he is presenting his facts to CONGRESS.
      2) CONGRESS can listen to the President of the United States, speaking to them directly in the Capitol. Not in secret to a few and hiding/manipulating the evidence on hidden servers, but to ALL the legally elected Congressmen and Senators, and the PUBLIC.
      3) After reviewing the FACTS, CONGRESS can then engage their machinery and determine if an inquiry is warranted. Not in a clearly partisan matter, but in a bipartisan matter.
      4) If the evidence proves illicit activity then the Department of Justice can get involved.

      So no, I don't have to do a fucking thing. There is mother fucking procedure for this, and elected representatives to carry out said procedure. Not a delusional dotard in office pretending to be fucking Batman fighting the deep state, and whatever other conspiracies he believes, in secret.

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  • (Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Friday November 01 2019, @09:04PM (1 child)

    by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Friday November 01 2019, @09:04PM (#914808) Journal

    Holding back like that can cause stress, man. Tell us how you really feel!

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    • (Score: 2) by edIII on Friday November 01 2019, @10:43PM

      by edIII (791) on Friday November 01 2019, @10:43PM (#914842)

      That you can only make cheeky comments and can't make constructive comments about the arguments? That you need to avoid the truth in plain sight like it was the plague? Talk about anything *but* what Trump actually did?

      Just like Republicans :)

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