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Smugglers have found an easy way to get through the vertical steel tube Mexican border wall. From https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/smugglers-are-sawing-through-new-sections-of-trumps-border-wall/2019/11/01/25bf8ce0-fa72-11e9-ac8c-8eced29ca6ef_story.html
The breaches have been made using a popular cordless household tool known as a reciprocating saw that retails at hardware stores for as little as $100. When fitted with specialized blades, the saws can slice through one of the barrier's steel-and-concrete bollards in minutes, according to the agents, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the barrier-defeating techniques.
After cutting through the base of a single bollard, smugglers can push the steel out of the way, creating an adult-size gap. Because the bollards are so tall — and are attached only to a panel at the top — their length makes them easier to push aside once they have been cut and are left dangling, according to engineers consulted by The Washington Post.
The taxpayer-funded barrier — so far coming with a $10 billion price tag — was a central theme of Trump's 2016 campaign, and he has made the project a physical symbol of his presidency, touting its construction progress in speeches, ads and tweets. Trump has increasingly boasted to crowds in recent weeks about the superlative properties of the barrier, calling it "virtually impenetrable" and likening the structure to a "Rolls-Royce" that border crossers cannot get over, under or through.
In other words, no one did any serious pen testing on the wall design, or it would have been obvious that with all that leverage, the top tie-in was easy to flex.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by martyb on Monday November 04 2019, @06:52PM (15 children)
Yep, all of 'em are "bad people". You don't want no "bad people" moving in now do you? Especially nowhere near where you live. Right?
I seriously doubt that ALL of the folk are "bad people", but rather regular folk like you and me who just want to live their life and take care of their family, and have found themselves thrust into the midst of fighting between drug cartels, street gangs, or may be suffering from political persecution and can get no help from bribed police.
Inasmuch as you find their coming here distasteful, imagine what many are fleeing from and what you would do in their shoes.
For the amount of money being spent to keep them out ($10 billion / ~330 million Americans giving a bill of approx. $3000 for every one of us to pay) against the few millions of people wanting to come here, it certainly seems to me to be money badly spent.
It seems to me you have not had to face the extremes these people did. Put yourself in their shoes for a bit and tell me what you might do differently. Walk hundreds of miles in hopes of getting a better life? I cannot imagine what horrors these folk have seen and experienced.
Uniformly, the people I have met who have fled war-stricken lands and poverty to come to the USA are uniformly grateful for their new life, hard-working, friendly, and happy to help others who now struggle as they once did. Maybe we could learn a few things from them.
Wit is intellect, dancing.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday November 04 2019, @07:02PM (10 children)
Well, Marty, it's for certain that they aren't all "good people" either. The cartels are already operating north of the border. They come, and they go, fearlessly, and do as they please while here.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday November 04 2019, @11:05PM (8 children)
While true, the cartels have enough money to dig deep enough to get under a 6 foot footer.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 3, Interesting) by deimtee on Tuesday November 05 2019, @10:00AM (7 children)
Yeah, but at the moment the bad people are hiding in amongst all the good people that cross the border. If you build a wall that only the bad people can get past you can just shoot anyone who crosses illegally.
If you cough while drinking cheap red wine it really cleans out your sinuses.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Pslytely Psycho on Tuesday November 05 2019, @02:09PM (6 children)
Fuck. So many in favor of MURDER here today.
May you end up in their position.
You are a sick ..... well, obviously not human, nor a person. Perhaps a shitstain on the bedsheets of life.
Alex Jones lawyer inspires new TV series: CSI Moron Division.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday November 05 2019, @03:14PM (2 children)
Your definition of murder does not coincide with either my definition, or the legal definition.
(Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Tuesday November 05 2019, @03:58PM (1 child)
So when you see that family running for the border, are you willing to kill unarmed people in cold blood with no trial? Fits my definition.
But your right, doing it at the border wouldn't technically be murder.
More like a war crime.
Murdering people seeking asylum. Is that really a country you could take pride in? Land of the oppressed, home of the coward? Not the ideal I served for.
Alex Jones lawyer inspires new TV series: CSI Moron Division.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday November 05 2019, @04:50PM
The guy breaking into my home at night doesn't have to be armed, to justify me shooting him dead. There is the "front door", where these "migrants" can ring the bell, and ask for admittance. And, there is the window in the bathroom, where the "migrants" can break into the house, hoping that no one notices them. You're asking me to not shoot the assholes coming through the bathroom window, or the basement door, or the attic vent. Just let them in, let them make themselves comfortable, and maybe I should offer them snacks and beverages.
Bro, I don't share your white guilt. Don't ask me to not shoot the burglars.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by tangomargarine on Tuesday November 05 2019, @04:59PM
You're criticizing him for not valuing human life, while calling him subhuman.
Pot: kettle
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Tuesday November 05 2019, @08:25PM (1 child)
I said
You can either take it as a precise literal statement, or you can take it as sarcasm. It works either way. But pick one or the other.
If you cough while drinking cheap red wine it really cleans out your sinuses.
(Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Wednesday November 06 2019, @04:03AM
Meh, should never post on a really ultra bad day. Reduced reading comprehension and enhanced psychotic reactions. Nice bag o' ganja sure improves the attitude. Come now, I made a great punching bag for a few hours now didn't I? Hehehe.
Tis' good to let the psychosis have a bit o' yard time occasionally. Clears the cobwebs. Resets the guidance computer.
Alex Jones lawyer inspires new TV series: CSI Moron Division.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Thexalon on Tuesday November 05 2019, @02:27AM
And of course everybody knows that the US had and has no drug problems whatsoever except those caused by Latin American drug cartels. No tobacco plantations, no cannabis, no snuff, no Chinese-run opium dens, no Irish and Italian booze gangs, no meth labs, no crack labs, and no big companies pushing highly addictive pain pills.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @08:48PM
Well it would be nice if they stayed and made an actual effort to fix things down there. If a large proportion of them are unhappy with the situation you should have a lot of available manpower
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 04 2019, @08:50PM (1 child)
Yeah, sure, their life sucks. So what? They don't get to come here.
Analogy: There are homeless people and burglars outside. Surely you will let them into your home? Your door can't stop them all, so why bother, and lots of them are miserable. Why are you excluding them from your home?
If I wanted to live with Central Americans, I would simply move to Central America. You are welcome to do so. I don't want the USA to be like El Salvador.
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Monday November 04 2019, @10:30PM
The El Salvadorians might want their country to be peaceful though, so how about you gringos stop messing their country up? If you guys left them alone they might not have to escape the various murderous dictators you keep foisting on them.
I imagine the same goes for the Nicaraguans, Hondurans, and Guatemalans as well.
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Monday November 04 2019, @09:50PM
$30, not $3000.
The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams.