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posted by martyb on Wednesday November 06 2019, @03:50AM   Printer-friendly
from the papers-please dept.

The deadline of yet another, and perhaps the most insidious, element of the post-9/11 initiatives (a partial list of which includes the establishment of the Transportation Security Agency, the Department of Homeland Security, and a never-ending international war against a nebulously-defined, noncorporeal enemy, "terror") is less than one year from coming to fruition. Beginning no later than October 1, 2020, citizens of all US states and territories will be required to have a Real ID compliant card or US passport to board a commercial plane or enter a Federal government facility. Pundits citing the inevitability of what amounts to a national ID card have, regrettably, been vindicated.

https://www.aier.org/article/while-you-slept-government-created-internal-passports/


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 06 2019, @03:59AM (12 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday November 06 2019, @03:59AM (#916693) Homepage Journal

    I been saying this shit since back in September of 2001 and everyone's all "Poo poo! They'll never do that, this is America!". Well, here's your lesson for the day. Democrat or Republican, they'll take every bit of power and control over your life that you let them get away with. They got this particular one passed because scared people are stupid people. So next time get mad instead of scared. There will still be consequences to not thinking but it'll be someone else having to live with them instead of you.

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  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @04:10AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @04:10AM (#916700)

    So next time get mad instead of scared. There will still be consequences to not thinking but it'll be someone else having to live with them instead of you.

    Incorrect. There will be consequences for you after you get yourself involuntarily admitted to the mental hospital for an anger disorder.

    • (Score: 2, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 06 2019, @04:49AM (4 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday November 06 2019, @04:49AM (#916712) Homepage Journal

      Yeah, that ain't something that happens here in the states. We're so big on being pissed off that it's our primary export.

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      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @04:56AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @04:56AM (#916714)

        This is post-9/11 America. You're not allowed to be angry. Your beliefs are so badly out of date, you're going to the mental ward.

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday November 06 2019, @05:07AM (2 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 06 2019, @05:07AM (#916717) Journal

        Yeah, that ain't something that happens here in the states. We're so big on being pissed off that it's our primary export.

        Huh. Like it matters! Being pissed off and doing nothing about it as as inconsequential as not being pissed off.

        Note: I'm not saying that you need to or, indeed, you can do something different of being pissed off.

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        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 07 2019, @11:29PM (1 child)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday November 07 2019, @11:29PM (#917627) Homepage Journal

          Everyone needs a hobby.

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          My rights don't end where your fear begins.
          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday November 07 2019, @11:32PM

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 07 2019, @11:32PM (#917631) Journal

            When the hobby is a habit of an entire population, it's no longer a hobby, it's tradition.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @08:21AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @08:21AM (#916747)

    Yet voter ID laws you applaud. See the cognitive dissonance inherent in the system!

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by slinches on Wednesday November 06 2019, @08:42PM (2 children)

      by slinches (5049) on Wednesday November 06 2019, @08:42PM (#916990)

      No cognitive dissonance is necessary unless you don't see a difference between traveling freely within a country and participating in its elections.

      • (Score: 1) by zion-fueled on Thursday November 07 2019, @01:05AM (1 child)

        by zion-fueled (8646) on Thursday November 07 2019, @01:05AM (#917077)

        Its not dissonance, just self serving.

        Voter ID = bad. poor people are too stupid to get IDs, its not like they need them to do everything else in life. DISCRIMINATION! /s

        National ID/Papers please = good. How dare you travel without identifying yourself. If you're poor, nobody is stopping you from walking.

        What's the common theme here? Voter ID hurts the authoritarians while keeping the proles in line with via "REAL" id is just part of the agenda. Public and private positions, they don't really believe either of these arguments.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @09:05PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @09:05PM (#918387)

          You realize that both parties are authoritarian and support Realid, right?

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 07 2019, @11:35PM

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday November 07 2019, @11:35PM (#917633) Homepage Journal

      That's actually a good point and something I've been thinking about lately. The type of voter ID laws I want instituted would have no personally identifiable information on them or in a database anywhere. A salted hash of your full name, date of birth, place of birth, yadda, yadda, yadda would do just fine if you could keep them from being counterfeited at scale.

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      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @10:08AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @10:08AM (#916756)