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posted by martyb on Wednesday November 06 2019, @03:50AM   Printer-friendly
from the papers-please dept.

The deadline of yet another, and perhaps the most insidious, element of the post-9/11 initiatives (a partial list of which includes the establishment of the Transportation Security Agency, the Department of Homeland Security, and a never-ending international war against a nebulously-defined, noncorporeal enemy, "terror") is less than one year from coming to fruition. Beginning no later than October 1, 2020, citizens of all US states and territories will be required to have a Real ID compliant card or US passport to board a commercial plane or enter a Federal government facility. Pundits citing the inevitability of what amounts to a national ID card have, regrettably, been vindicated.

https://www.aier.org/article/while-you-slept-government-created-internal-passports/


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @06:13PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @06:13PM (#916888)

    While You Slept, Government Created a National ID Card

    FTFY.

    This is not a passport. You need to have one to get on a plane. You can drive across state lines without presenting papers. You can fly to any other state without getting prior approval. You can fly to another state by using another valid ID, such as a (real) passport, a military ID, or a few other trusted forms of ID.

    More to the point, everybody who has been to college knows the market for fake driver's licenses, to get alcohol among other things. They also know how easy it has historically been to make.

    You can agree or disagree if there "should" be a national ID, but let's not conflate this effort with an internal passport, with border checks, and "papers please."

    But I guess it's a less inflammatory a headline, so that's why the horribly disingenuous misrepresentation.

  • (Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Wednesday November 06 2019, @07:51PM

    by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Wednesday November 06 2019, @07:51PM (#916947) Journal

    While You Slept, Government Created a framework to coordinate and respect the ID's issued by states who did so consistent with the real ID standard.

    FTFFY. There is no "national ID", but rather all the participating States and organizations have all applied a common framework for how they go about issuing their ID's. And the Federal government has issued regulations denying access of people who are not so endowed.

    Now.... let's sit back and wait for the FAKE ID's that are "Real ID" compliant. They will happen.

    And what it is saying is that if you do not have such an ID (my driver's license, renewed last year, is NOT compatible), then you will not board a domestic flight. That's pretty goddamn close to "papers please." How long until buses, trains, and all other forms of nonprivate interstate transport shall be required to have that?

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  • (Score: 2) by jasassin on Wednesday November 06 2019, @09:28PM (1 child)

    by jasassin (3566) <jasassin@gmail.com> on Wednesday November 06 2019, @09:28PM (#917003) Homepage Journal

    More to the point, everybody who has been to college knows the market for fake driver's licenses, to get alcohol among other things. They also know how easy it has historically been to make.

    I was talking to a lady in the gas station and she asked for my I'D for some beer. She scanned the back of it and it made me curious. We talked some more (for some reason people find me the kind of person they can open up to) and she told me her niece had a fake I'D and her niece came in to the gas station and she scanned the back of the fake I'D and it passed verification.

    Just an FYI.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @11:40PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2019, @11:40PM (#917039)

      The barcode on the back just passes DOB info IIRC - it should be plenty easy to counterfeit.