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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday November 09 2019, @01:02AM   Printer-friendly
from the no-regulatory-control dept.

The Wasington Post has a report on the FDA investigation into illnesses and lung damage caused by vaping.

State and federal health officials investigating mysterious lung illnesses linked to vaping have found the same chemical in samples of marijuana products used by people sickened in different parts of the country and who used different brands of products in recent weeks.

[...] That same chemical was also found in nearly all cannabis samples from patients who fell ill in New York in recent weeks, a state health department spokeswoman said. While this is the first common element found in samples from across the country, health officials said it is too early to know whether this is causing the injuries.

[...] State and federal health authorities have said they are focusing on the role of contaminants or counterfeit substances as a likely cause of vaping-related lung illnesses. Many patients have told officials and clinicians that they bought cannabis products off the street.


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  • (Score: 2) by Snotnose on Saturday November 09 2019, @01:53AM (10 children)

    by Snotnose (1623) on Saturday November 09 2019, @01:53AM (#918128)

    you mean this whole kerfluffle was a few bad actors selling on the black market, and not something inherent in Vaping? That's gonna poke a few holes in a few narratives.

    Wonder if it will matter?

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Saturday November 09 2019, @02:25AM (4 children)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Saturday November 09 2019, @02:25AM (#918134)

    Yes, everybody in the vape industry - including the vapers themselves - know this whole "epidemic" is just a few people vaping shady juices made in someone's kitchen with stupid ingredients. But that won't poke holes in the narratives of Big Tobacco, Big Pharma or the government, because they really, REALLY want to legislate vaping out of existence, and this is a godsend for them. They have almost unlimited means to spread disinformation and bad PR, they'd done so for years with good success, and they'll exploit this incident for all its worth to put the final nail in the coffin - and the vaping industry just won't be able to resist the media shitstorm.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Saturday November 09 2019, @03:30AM (3 children)

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Saturday November 09 2019, @03:30AM (#918148) Journal

      But that won't poke holes in the narratives of Big Tobacco...

      E-Cigarettes [opensecrets.org]

      Altria (Phillip Morris) owns 35% of Juul.

      Vuse, the #2 ecig manufacturer, is owned by a company actually called 'British American Tobacco.' (formerly R.J. Reynolds)

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @04:44AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @04:44AM (#918165)

        Beat me to it. When I found this out, everything sort of clicked into place about the vape narrative. Juul is Republican Party. Ergo, the Democratic Party must oppose vaping. It also makes Juul's bad behavior make sense, they're Republicans after all so what do you expect. What is the moderate position?

        • (Score: 2) by cykros on Monday November 11 2019, @04:06PM

          by cykros (989) on Monday November 11 2019, @04:06PM (#918972)

          This explains why Trump is after tougher regulations on vaping; as with most things, he's just a badly behaved Democrat in disguise.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @06:28AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @06:28AM (#918174)

        Extend, Embrace, Extinguish.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @02:45AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @02:45AM (#918136)

    That's why we need to make weed illegal again - get it off the shelves and onto the streets where nobody can see it or test it or QA it. Create a perfect utopia. Again.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @03:00AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @03:00AM (#918142)

      Antisocial nerdy incels can't talk to a drug dealer or enter any kind of utopia.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @04:20AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @04:20AM (#918160)

        You forgot to bold incel.

        Btw, tell us how expunging cannabis convictions, which very disproportionately affects people of color, actually reifies the racism of musky tech incels who need NORML Libertarian dude weed lmao to get high.

        But maybe you're just a racist, and incarceration of people of color is a feature to you, not a bug.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @03:01AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 09 2019, @03:01AM (#918143)

    No it will not matter. Juul will be crushed, vaping will be banned.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday November 09 2019, @04:05AM

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday November 09 2019, @04:05AM (#918157) Homepage

      There are 2 major problems soccer-moms have with vaping. The first is the flavors. Peach, grape, passionfruit, or menthol flavors that attract the underage to vaping due to their candy-like flavors.

      So what needs to be done, and what I believe Juul already did, is stop selling the flavored shite outright so parents won't have excuses to bitch. Unfortunately, Blacks are huge consumers of flavored nicotine and asking them to drop the flavors is like asking them to pick up their pants.

      The second problem, which will never be fixed unless it counteracts the first, is the stealth-mode with regards to how vaping doesn't stink up the place and they can be smoked discretely inside non-smoking buildings. To correct that problem would be to place stinky and/or long-lasting additives in the oils. Or do something even stupider, like have a loud un-disablable beep whenever a puff is taken.