Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:
Phone intercepts show rebels accused of shooting down the plane had 'close ties' with Russia before the 2014 attack.
A series of phone intercepts released by a team investigating the 2014 downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 over Ukraine show ties between Moscow and the pro-Russian rebels accused of shooting down the aircraft were "much closer" than originally believed, investigators said.
The Dutch-lead Joint Investigation Team (JIT) said calls between officials in Moscow and pro-Russian rebel leaders in eastern Ukraine, who are facing trial over the incident, intensified before the crash in July of 2014, raising questions over Russia's involvement in providing the missile used to down the plane.
"There was almost daily telephone contact between the leadership of the DPR and their contacts in the Russian Federation," JIT said in a statement on Thursday, using the acronym of the Donetsk People's Republic rebels. The calls mostly took place over secure phones provided by Russian security forces, it said.
All 298 people on board died when MH17 was shot out of the sky over the territory held by pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine as it flew from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @04:28AM (5 children)
That is one point of view. There is also the fact that the population of Crimea actually voted to secede from Ukraine, and return to Russia. So, yeah, there really are rebels in Ukraine, who reject the current regime. The ability of any partisan "fact checker" to establish who is who is in question here.
Need it be repeated here, that the current regime was imposed on Ukraine by EU and US interests?
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @04:47AM (3 children)
As it's a lie.
https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/election-watchdog-opora-presidential-election-free-and-fair.html [kyivpost.com]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Ukrainian_revolution [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Ukrainian_presidential_election [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @04:58AM (1 child)
kyivpost and wikipedia - one, the current regime's mouthpiece, the other routinely edited by anyone who cares to edit it.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/kyiv-post/ [mediabiasfactcheck.com]
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @05:13AM
Provide some proof that the previous links *are* untrue, not just innuendo.
Here's some more you disingenuous piece of shit.
https://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/ukraine/417821 [osce.org]
https://www.ndi.org/publications/statement-ndi-election-observation-mission-ukraine-s-july-21-2019-snap-parliamentary [ndi.org]
https://www.ndi.org/publications/statement-ndi-election-observation-mission-ukraines-april-21-2019-second-round [ndi.org]
https://www.iri.org/resource/ukraine-election-continued-mandate-change [iri.org]
(Score: 3, Interesting) by legont on Saturday November 16 2019, @06:46PM
The president of Ukrane was elected and overthrown *twice*. There were two so called revolutions, remember? The people had enough of crooks who took the power the first time and they elected the *same* president again. The Nazi overthrown him yet again. Only then the rebellion started, Crimea, Donbas and Donezk separated. I predict, we will have it one more time.
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: 1) by pTamok on Sunday November 17 2019, @08:47PM
It didn't have the attributes of a free and fair vote. It took place after the occupying army were in place.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Crimean_status_referendum [wikipedia.org]