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posted by janrinok on Saturday November 16 2019, @12:09AM   Printer-friendly
from the we-can-hear-you dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

Phone intercepts show rebels accused of shooting down the plane had 'close ties' with Russia before the 2014 attack.

A series of phone intercepts released by a team investigating the 2014 downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 over Ukraine show ties between Moscow and the pro-Russian rebels accused of shooting down the aircraft were "much closer" than originally believed, investigators said.

The Dutch-lead Joint Investigation Team (JIT) said calls between officials in Moscow and pro-Russian rebel leaders in eastern Ukraine, who are facing trial over the incident, intensified before the crash in July of 2014, raising questions over Russia's involvement in providing the missile used to down the plane.

"There was almost daily telephone contact between the leadership of the DPR and their contacts in the Russian Federation," JIT said in a statement on Thursday, using the acronym of the Donetsk People's Republic rebels. The calls mostly took place over secure phones provided by Russian security forces, it said.

All 298 people on board died when MH17 was shot out of the sky over the territory held by pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine as it flew from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @09:23PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @09:23PM (#921077)

    The Dutch, like all of Western Europe, are under the iron fist of the US empire and its outlook. It cannot be that pro-Ukranian forces launched the rocket. It cannot be that that area should have been avoided as an active war zone. Ukraine is a safe country and pro-Russian separatists are a minor annoyance that will shortly be extinguished. It cannot be that billions were dumped in to overthrow an elected government, and bring Nazis to power. It cannot be that Europe is worse off with the Americans dropping the tar baby of Ukraine into its lap (fuck the EU!). It cannot be that connected US interests are exploiting the corruption in the Ukraine for their own benefit.

    If you believe otherwise, you're a god damn dirty Trump / Putin lover and paid shill.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @10:15PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @10:15PM (#921083)

    So. Yes?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @10:24PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @10:24PM (#921089)

    I'm an empiricist. Evidence motherfucker. Do you have any?

    All you've provided is innuendo and half-assed conspiracy theories.

    I suppose that may work for the hoi polloi, but I like my narratives to come with facts.

    Yummy, yummy facts.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @10:49PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @10:49PM (#921096)

    The Dutch, like all of Western Europe, are under the iron fist of the US empire and its outlook. It cannot be that pro-Ukranian forces launched the rocket. It cannot be that that area should have been avoided as an active war zone. Ukraine is a safe country and pro-Russian separatists are a minor annoyance that will shortly be extinguished. It cannot be that billions were dumped in to overthrow an elected government, and bring Nazis to power. It cannot be that Europe is worse off with the Americans dropping the tar baby of Ukraine into its lap (fuck the EU!). It cannot be that connected US interests are exploiting the corruption in the Ukraine for their own benefit.

    If you believe otherwise, you're a god damn dirty Trump / Putin lover and paid shill.

    Let me get this straight. You say that if one believes that Russian weapons used by Russian backed rebels shot down a commercial airliner with hundreds of innocent people aboard, then they support Putin?

    Wow. That's one of the most incoherent, nonsensical things I've heard in a while. Good show! Are you available for parties?

    • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday November 16 2019, @11:27PM

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday November 16 2019, @11:27PM (#921112) Homepage

      Hillary and the Jews shot down the airliner to frame Russia and start another world war. Putin said fairly recently and mockingly that "perhaps Jews with Russian citizenship*" interfered with American elections when all the big deal was made about "Russian Hacking" in our elections. With 2 shootings and now this in the past few days, the Jews run by Liddle Adam Schitt know the time is short. Their only option is to accelerate the plan with the results you see.

      * "Jews with Russian citizenship" beinga nod to the Ukranians, of course.