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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday November 19 2019, @03:08AM   Printer-friendly
from the asbestos-underpants dept.

Having written an IDE, an API, and having gone through the copyright process for software before, I have at least a little understanding the current debate between Google and Oracle. While the general consensus seems to be that Google is right, I disagree. Here are my reasons.

1. There is very poor support for software copyrights at the U.S. Copyright Office. This is true to such an extent that it is practically trade interference. Like or not, the copyright office is almost universally unwilling to review file formats that are aren't developed by Microsoft.

The costs associated with patents are extraordinarily high, and the procedures for using the patent system is so obfuscated that it is meaningless for software. It might be practical to create a filing system for APIs that are separate class of design patent. But the real issue here, is nobody in the USPTO or the the Copyright Office wants to serve the software industry.

API copyrights provides an abbreviated basis for for dealing with the copyright office, and provides an easier mechanism for courts to understand. It is trivial to rename elements of source code in a piece of work and make it appear to not be the same work, though fundamentally it is. Contrary to this APIs must be the same to be useful. This means that distinguishing infringement is easier for them, which makes it easier for me to establish a protectable space for my work.

2. Protocols are underdeveloped. One of the huge arguments made by Google supporters is that API copyright will break protocols. Yes they will. This is a good thing. We should be doing more in protocol development and less in presentation development. It is a simple fact that civil rights in domestic communications is a technically achievable thing that has very little support from the commercial sector. Backwards compatibility has created market pressures that have preserved insecure systems architectures, and that has had a very negative effect on civil rights.

API copyrights will break backwards compatibility. But more importantly, they will preserve the market space of forward compatibility. Which is to say that API copyrights will have a positive effect on mitigating Embrace Extend Extinguish (EEE) business strategies. This is very good for FOSS in particular, and it will be good for the Internet, because it will force a more diverse protocol stack into existence. Sorry IETF, but we are way past the point where there is any excuse for the current state of the TCP/IP Internet.

3. If you are writing clean code, you are writing an API. If you are using Object Orientation correctly, everything you do during the development cycle contributes to the creation of an API. The only exception is the main() loop, which aggregates all of these API calls. Which means (drum roll) if you write clean code in a modern programming language, you are writing protectable code.

The semantic differences that people make over API vs. code are ridiculous. The Copyright Office currently accepts "compendiums" as copyrightable works. An API is a compendium of function calls, sans the underlying functions. But BOTH are copyrightable. There is nothing in an API copyright that prevents you from copyrighting the underlying source code as well. C has always done something similar by separating header and source files. So does your header file deserve less copyright than your source code? Hardly.

All the API copyright does is create a legal namespace that is unique to your project. It is more akin to a trademark than it is copyright or patent. But in any case, there is a need for lawfully protectable namespace in software.

4. It will fragment the software industry. Software engineers are notoriously cantankerous characters. If small software projects and library writing become more protected by copyright, then independent software development will be more profitable.

5. The whole case might be a put-on. Maybe Google is just shouting: "Don't throw me in that briar patch!", to each judge as they pass by. Both of these companies have huge back catalogs of software, all of which would be massively more litigable if Oracle wins. I believe this to be true and regard the variability of the outcome as slight. If they are playing Potemkin village to the highest court in the land, well that is their prerogative. They paid the lawyers to put on the show after all.

YMMV
Anonymous


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 19 2019, @10:19PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 19 2019, @10:19PM (#922118)

    "Oh do fuck off and die."

    I'll do you one better. Your mother smells of elderberries!

    "they used a single vendor's software, that'll be much better."

    Considering invasive DNS mining in monopoly telecom markets, isn't that is what is happening now?

    "Everybody who doesn't code the way you do is doing it wrong? Eat a dick."

    You clearly were a poet in a former life.

    "fostering cooperation to produce something that didn't suck balls."

    What makes you think that API copyrights will suddenly make people not want to work together? Actually stable top level namespaces will probably result in less reinventing the wheel.

  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 20 2019, @01:56AM (4 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday November 20 2019, @01:56AM (#922200) Homepage Journal

    Considering invasive DNS mining in monopoly telecom markets, isn't that is what is happening now?

    sudo emerge -a net-dns/bind
    Problem solved.

    You clearly were a poet in a former life.

    I can't make you see the beauty in simplicity. I can only keep providing examples.

    What makes you think that API copyrights will suddenly make people not want to work together? Actually stable top level namespaces will probably result in less reinventing the wheel.

    You're not really that stupid, are you? Or are you just that young? Learn your history. Hell, learn your present.

    --
    My rights don't end where your fear begins.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 20 2019, @05:12PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 20 2019, @05:12PM (#922454)

      "I can't make you see the beauty in simplicity. I can only keep providing examples."

      There is a correct level of abstraction for every problem. The disagreement here is whether Copyright has the appropriate level of abstraction as it stands. You are apparently under the impression that failing to have an API copyright is simpler than having one.

      The reason you are wrong, is that the lack of this particular function (an API copyright) is creating spaghettii code that wouldn't be there if a proper object interface was defined.

      Status Quo != Simpler

      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday November 20 2019, @11:05PM (2 children)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday November 20 2019, @11:05PM (#922693) Homepage Journal

        Neat attempt there at completely changing what you were applying the word "simplicity" to but unfortunately I noticed. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.

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        My rights don't end where your fear begins.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 21 2019, @04:34PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 21 2019, @04:34PM (#923038)

          "I award you no points "

          Since you are clearly lord and master of the universe and all things software, you may now crawl back down your hole, little narcissist troll boy.