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posted by martyb on Thursday November 21 2019, @03:13PM   Printer-friendly
from the Big-Badda-Boom dept.

On thing keeps me awake at night, and during the day, for that matter: GRBs. Gamma Ray Bursts. If one occurred relatively close to the earth, and was aimed right at us, well, things would not go well. And now, Looks like they may be stronger than thought..

An international team of astronomers has detected a pair of gamma-ray bursts with energies more powerful than anything ever seen before. GRBs are the strongest explosions known in the cosmos, but these latest observations suggests we’ve significantly underestimated their true potential.

Three new papers published today in Nature describe two new gamma-ray bursts—GRB 190114C and GRB 180720B—both of which yielded the highest-energy photons ever recorded for GRB events. The unprecedented observations are casting new light—quite literally—onto these mysterious cosmic events and the mechanics behind them.

Gamma-ray bursts are thought to be triggered when gigantic stars collapse into black holes, causing a supernova. The resulting explosion produces a powerful, concentrated jet that shoots material into space at 99.99 percent the speed of light. The rapidly accelerating particles within the jet produce gamma rays through complex interactions with magnetic fields and radiation. The ensuing gamma rays continue to travel through interstellar space, some of which eventually reach Earth. When they come into contact with our atmosphere, gamma rays trigger a particle cascade that in turn generates a phenomenon known as Cherenkov light, which can be detected by specially equipped telescopes.

Details:

The first of these high-energy events, GRB 180720B, happened on July 20, 2018, and is described in a paper led by astronomers from the Max Planck Institute, Deutsches Elektronen-Synchotron (DESY), the International Centre for Radio Astronomy Research (ICRAR), and several other institutions. The second event, GRB 190114C, occurred on January 14, 2019, and is described in two new papers (here and here), both led by Razmik Mirzoyan from the Max Planck Institute for Physics. Over 300 scientists from around the world were involved in the research.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 21 2019, @04:42PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 21 2019, @04:42PM (#923048)

    GRBs are not only about "you". It's everyone in your neighborhood, everyone in your country, everyone in your hemisphere.

    There may be a few on the side of the earth opposite the burst that survive, but either the Chinese will lose their shipments of soybeans from USA, or the USA will lose all their "made in China" merchandise.

    Life as we have known it will be radically changed. Much worse than zombies.

  • (Score: 3, Touché) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday November 21 2019, @07:02PM (1 child)

    by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Thursday November 21 2019, @07:02PM (#923098)

    What's wrong with zombies?

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by c0lo on Thursday November 21 2019, @09:56PM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 21 2019, @09:56PM (#923165) Journal

      The true zombies are full time. Like, full-time-all-the-time undead.
      If you thought that 9-5 is bad, imagine how it is when it is on call no exception.

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  • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Thursday November 21 2019, @07:36PM (1 child)

    by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 21 2019, @07:36PM (#923109) Homepage Journal

    The other side of the earth from North America is more like New Zealand and Australia than China.

    • (Score: 2) by Osamabobama on Thursday November 21 2019, @08:42PM

      by Osamabobama (5842) on Thursday November 21 2019, @08:42PM (#923137)

      You are considering the geography, but that is not at risk from a gamma ray burst. It's the people who are at risk, and there are a lot of those in China. (Also, India, which is pretty close to antipodal to the US.)

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 21 2019, @08:44PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 21 2019, @08:44PM (#923139)

    The real danger of GRB's is not the direct impact. You don't burn to death or anything like that. It probably would not even make it through the atmosphere. But oh the atmosphere, that's where the real issue. Those high energy particles would wreak havoc in our atmosphere with consequences that are not entirely clear beyond "bad". A "best" case scenario is that it only wipes out the ozone layer. Say goodbye to photosynthesis. Plants go, herbivores go, carnivores go, omnivores go. It wouldn't be pretty.

    A gamma ray burst is one of the leading explanations for the Ordovician mass extinction event where about 85% of marine species (at a time when most of all complex life was still marine) tapped out. And this was (and would be) a global effect.

    This is one of the many reasons people obsessing about climate are missing the forest through the trees. Earth isn't some place we can just make an indefinite oasis so long as we treat her well. Sooner or later, she's going to "die". I mean she'll probably be fine, but most stuff on her won't. The one and only possible way for humans to genuinely solidify their future in this universe is by conquering space. That of course doesn't mean we should neglect Earth, but rather that sustainability is an unachievable goal. We should keep Earth for as long as we can, but the main priority needs to be space. And as soon as we are established on Mars, we need to keep moving. Unfortunately we were all born a few hundred years too early to realize that the real game of life is only just beginning. Our job is merely to get our descendants to the starting line.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday November 21 2019, @10:24PM (3 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 21 2019, @10:24PM (#923182) Journal
      Any GRB that would mess up Earth's atmosphere that much is going to wipe out most hypothetical life in space and mess up other planets and such in the Solar System too. Sure, you've increased the number of places that can survive a GRB of that strength. But you've also increased the amount of places that will suffer under such a disaster.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 22 2019, @03:08PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 22 2019, @03:08PM (#923398)

        Not at all. The main reason we're alive today is that gamma ray bursts tend to be relatively thin. We're now able to detect, on average, about one a day. It's like we're at a party and some asshole in the center just keeps shooting bullets in random directions. Relative is, of course, relative. For instance a beam could be as wide as the Earth - but they are nowhere near large enough to encompass anything like the entire solar system or we'd long since have been toast a million times over. Well that or evolved to not rely on our current form of atmosphere.

        And also by the time they get to us they've mostly blown their load. So when you read things like these things having as much energy concentrated into a few seconds as the sun will in its 10 billion year lifetime, you have to keep in mind electromagnetic goodies, including GRBs, all are subject to inverse square laws. Double a distance, reduce the inensity by 1/4th, triple it 1/9th, quadruple it 1/16th, etc. And the GRBs tend to originate from really really far away. These events were 4-6 billion light years away. So you're not experiencing this crazy power at exposure, it takes that crazy power to create a signal strong enough that any of it gets to us!

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday November 22 2019, @04:24PM (1 child)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 22 2019, @04:24PM (#923433) Journal

          For instance a beam could be as wide as the Earth

          Or light years across. The point is that it takes a lot less energy for a GBR to kill things in space than to kill things on Earth.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday November 22 2019, @04:29PM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 22 2019, @04:29PM (#923436) Journal

            it takes a lot less energy density for a GBR to kill things in space