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posted by janrinok on Sunday November 24 2019, @08:47AM   Printer-friendly
from the I'll-drink-to-that-but-I'll-pick-my-own-beer dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

The next beer you crack open at the Enterprise Center may have an incredibly minimal carbon footprint, St. Louis Blues fans. Anheuser-Busch said on Thursday it completed the very first beer delivery using zero-emissions delivery vehicles.

Specifically, it hauled the shipment of beer in a Nikola hydrogen-electric semi, before its partner brought the adult beverage to its final destination in a BYD electric truck. Anheuser-Busch placed an order for 800 of the hydrogen-electric Nikola semi trucks last year as the beer brewer looks to turn its entire long-haul vehicle fleet into a zero-emissions one. By 2025, the company has committed to shaving 25% of its carbon emissions.

The beer brewer will run a fleet of Nikola Two hydrogen-electric trucks. These models do not solely run on hydrogen, but incorporate both a hydrogen fuel cell and battery-electric powertrain. On hydrogen, the Two should go up to 750 miles. With electricity from the battery, Nikola expects up to 350 miles of range. The BYD electric trucks, like the one used in this first shipment, are meant to complement the semis.


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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by Mojibake Tengu on Sunday November 24 2019, @09:05AM (14 children)

    by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Sunday November 24 2019, @09:05AM (#924126) Journal

    Beer itself is technically climate-unfriendly, as cows or horses are. Electric beer trucks are insufficient solution to this problem.
    Obviously, the fermentation process produces ethanol C2H5OH, and carbon dioxide CO2.
    All those climate activists should stop drinking beer, effective immediately and forever. Be exemplary.
    And please someone tell Greta about it.

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  • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday November 24 2019, @09:31AM

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday November 24 2019, @09:31AM (#924130) Homepage

    Are you saying that beer farts are the environmentally-unfriendly aspect of drinking beer? Now that's hard to believe, tell me the last time you were in a bar and it smelled like a sewage treatment plant. I've been in lots of packed, cramped little bars during peak business hours and have never smelled any trace of fart. Well, wait a minute, one time I was in a bar and got a whiff of poo-poo but that was because somebody thought they farted but actually shit themselves. We call it "pants-chili."

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by canopic jug on Sunday November 24 2019, @10:32AM (3 children)

    by canopic jug (3949) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 24 2019, @10:32AM (#924136) Journal

    It's a completely different carbon cycle. The stuff in the ground has been sequestered for millions of years and unless we pull it up and burn it will stay there. The stuff in grain is in active circulation. That is a separate loop.

    However, climate change will put an end to the availability of grains that we currently enjoy [dw.com]. The articles on the topic like to talk about beer shortages in the coming times but that's just a calm way of warning there won't be food to eat. Sure, there will be new places to grow grain but consider that the best fields have long been covered with asphalt and business parks and that our current infrastructure is based on the grain growing where it currently grows.

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    • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by Mojibake Tengu on Sunday November 24 2019, @10:38AM (1 child)

      by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Sunday November 24 2019, @10:38AM (#924137) Journal

      The same argumentation of yours is valid about cows, but clearly that does not stop the activists from agitation.

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      • (Score: 2) by canopic jug on Sunday November 24 2019, @10:59AM

        by canopic jug (3949) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 24 2019, @10:59AM (#924144) Journal

        Yep. The same problem applies to the debate about cows, though there is a different between methane and plain CO2. In general, there is a lot of noise out there instead of fact-based debate. Like with many other topics, people make up their minds and then ignore any data to the contrary. If they step back and take a calm look at what is what, then they'll see there are separate carbon cycles.

        It's worth fighting for but once the methane hydrates boil on the sea bottom or the arctic peat burns, it's game over. Those, too, are outside of the carbon cycle containing cows and beer.

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    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday November 25 2019, @11:41AM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday November 25 2019, @11:41AM (#924479) Journal

      That's a bit apocalyptic, canopic jug. People are adaptable. The first beer recipes from the Sumerians and Egyptians and such used different grains, that is, what they had at hand. It is possible.

      Also, we have hydroponics and with modification can put more of our landscape under cultivation. The Incans and Balinese used terraces to grow food, but the modern world has chosen to get higher yields other ways.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Sunday November 24 2019, @01:11PM (4 children)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Sunday November 24 2019, @01:11PM (#924154)

    You assume Budweiser is beer - when in reality it's closer to donkey piss.

    • (Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Sunday November 24 2019, @01:35PM

      by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Sunday November 24 2019, @01:35PM (#924159) Journal

      I am very aware the American so called Budweiser is a foul and fake beer with a stolen trademark.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budweiser_trademark_dispute [wikipedia.org]
      We call it Budvar for centuries, as shortening of Budějovický var since the middle age. Budweiser is just a name given to it by some barbaric tribe living west of us.

      But those historical, technology and legal facts have no effect on climatic change, so far...

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    • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Monday November 25 2019, @12:08AM (1 child)

      by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Monday November 25 2019, @12:08AM (#924334) Journal
      Budweiser is like sex in a canoe - fucking close to water.
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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 25 2019, @09:04PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 25 2019, @09:04PM (#924637)

        LOL! I have to admit I've never heard that one before.

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday November 25 2019, @11:35AM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday November 25 2019, @11:35AM (#924478) Journal

      Beer enthusiasts who have traveled to Europe will note that how a brand tastes there can be remarkably different from how it tastes in North America. Warsteiner and Blue Moon were two of my absolute favorites in Europe, but in America they are rather meh. Budweiser, which tastes like donkey piss in America, is the favorite of many Germans there.

      I don't know why that is. Maybe somebody with more specific knowledge will explain.

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  • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Sunday November 24 2019, @01:45PM (2 children)

    by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Sunday November 24 2019, @01:45PM (#924161) Homepage
    Beer's enjoyable - I'm sure Greta wants to ban it already.
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 25 2019, @01:35AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 25 2019, @01:35AM (#924358)

      OK, Boomer!

  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday November 25 2019, @11:31AM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday November 25 2019, @11:31AM (#924476) Journal

    And please someone tell Greta about it.

    Don't. Your empty words will steal her dreams.

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