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posted by janrinok on Tuesday November 26 2019, @10:56PM   Printer-friendly
from the paranoia-or-shrewd-planning? dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

[...] But in the US and UK the rollout of 5G networks has been hampered by an international row over one of the most important suppliers of 5G equipment, China's Huawei.

Industry analysts like Edison Lee, an analyst from financial services group Jefferies, see the US pressure on Huawei as an attempt to break China's potential dominance of the global 5G market.

"The tech war is based on America's argument that China's technological advances have been built upon stolen intellectual property rights, and heavy government subsidies, and their belief that Chinese telecom equipment is not safe, and is a national security threat to the US and its allies," he says.

"As Huawei and [fellow Chinese firm] ZTE increasingly dominate the global telecom equipment market, the western world will be more vulnerable to Chinese spying," Lee adds.

Huawei has always strongly denied that its technology can be used for spying. While western nations worry about one of the key suppliers of 5G technology, China is racing ahead with its 5G rollout. On 31 October Chinese telecom companies launched 5G services in more than 50 Chinese cities, creating one of the world's largest 5G networks. Huawei has built an estimated 50% of the network.

[...] Industry analysts are not confident that the row between China and the US will be sorted out anytime soon.

"We see the current tensions as a technological Cold War, as tech nationalism intensifies," says Ben Wood, chief of research, at CCS Insight.

"With the Chinese government firmly committed to establishing China as a world-leading 5G nation, the opportunity for Huawei in its home market is immense.

"However, the rest of the world can't afford to get left behind, and without access to Huawei infrastructure US mobile network operators in particular will need to rely on alternative suppliers who may be more expensive and less advanced with 5G."


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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Mojibake Tengu on Wednesday November 27 2019, @01:01AM (8 children)

    by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Wednesday November 27 2019, @01:01AM (#925187) Journal

    Frankly, I do not care if some foreign government throws heavy subsidies into some paradigm changing research, if that helps to progress all humanity, but...

    The tech war is based on America's argument that China's technological advances have been built upon stolen intellectual property rights

    If it is true China's 5G technological advances have been built upon stolen intellectual property rights, where on the market are some America's far ahead technological advances in this sector, based on those said intellectual property rights?

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  • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday November 27 2019, @01:07AM

    by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Wednesday November 27 2019, @01:07AM (#925189)

    I wondered about that very thing.

    That whole paragraph is nonsense really:

    "The tech war is based on America's argument that China's technological advances have been built upon stolen intellectual property rights,

    As you noted, where are the great American advances then?

    ...and heavy government subsidies,

    You know what? My government is pissed off about the way all you lot heavily subsidise your agricultural sectors, instead of forcing them to compete Stop doing that and we could talk.

    ...and their belief that Chinese telecom equipment is not safe, and is a national security threat to the US and its allies," he says.

    Except the US' allies don't agree, and are either already using Huawei, or are planning to. Even 5-eyes countries.

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by driverless on Wednesday November 27 2019, @02:21AM (2 children)

    by driverless (4770) on Wednesday November 27 2019, @02:21AM (#925202)

    Interesting conspiracy theory: Following Aleksandr Dugin's weak US/strong Russia philosophy, Russian insiders convince Trump to cripple the US' 5G prospects by banning Chinese vendors that provide the tech, and the US public to cripple the US' 5G prospects with scaremongering about 5G radiation. Result: Other countries surge ahead, the US is so busy shooting itself in the foot over 5G it falls behind, and Putin rubs his hands. Будем здоровы!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 27 2019, @02:46AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 27 2019, @02:46AM (#925213)

      You have a future in Hollyweird or MSM.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 27 2019, @01:53PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 27 2019, @01:53PM (#925333)

      I think we lack a phrase for distinguishing between conspiracy theories.

      For instance it is literally a conspiracy theory that Epstein was killed. But when you look at the evidence (guards somehow stop checking in at exact time he offs himself, cellmate inexplicably removed, camera in front of cell inexplicably malfunctioning, removed from suicide watch after being evaluated by shrink, other prisoners report hearing screaming the morning of his death, broken neck bones more consistent with homicidal strangulation, motive, etc, etc) then there's an extremely strong case for the view that he was murdered. In my opinion the weight of evidence makes it more probable, but that's not necessarily required. The point is that there's a lot of concrete evidence strongly supporting it.

      Your conspiracy theory here, by contrast, is seemingly based on nothing but speculation and fantasy. I actually think the real deal here is Merkel has a sextape between her and Trump. She's constantly been threatening to release it which would have no less effect than a nuclear strike as millions of people would drop dead at such a sight. In an effort to undermine the United States and strengthen the EU, she's demanded Trump get into an unwinnable economic war with China of which this ban is a component. America weakens, EU strengthens, checkmate and Heil Führer Merkel! Prost!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 27 2019, @04:59AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 27 2019, @04:59AM (#925262)

    Ok... So 5G is stolen intellectual property rights.

    Did we ever pay China for the intellectual property of making explosive powder?

    Or is it "research" if we benefit, and "theft" if someone else benefits.

    Personally, I am getting so sick and tired of all this patent and copyright crap that keeps us from having interoperable commodities designed around public standards. All this secret stuff is just creating monopolies and enforced obsolescence in a world already overflowing with trash. And we can't trust anything with software in it.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 27 2019, @09:28AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 27 2019, @09:28AM (#925297)

      The night is always darkest before the end.

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday November 27 2019, @03:22PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 27 2019, @03:22PM (#925355) Journal

        I think you mean . . . before you realize it is an oncoming train.

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    • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Wednesday November 27 2019, @03:43PM

      by Sulla (5173) on Wednesday November 27 2019, @03:43PM (#925364) Journal

      My god i never thought of it that way! We should hurry up and remove all barriers to trade so they can erode our standard living to nothing and round us up as organ cattle, after all its only right, they did tell us about gunpowder.

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