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Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity

posted by martyb on Tuesday December 10 2019, @02:06PM   Printer-friendly

upstart writes in with a submission, via IRC, for chromas.

Debian Developers Take To Voting Over Init System Diversity

It's been five years already since the vote to transition to systemd in Debian over Upstart while now there is the new vote that has just commenced for judging the interest in "init system diversity" and just how much Debian developers care (or not) in supporting alternatives to systemd.

Due to Debian developers having differing opinions on handling non-systemd bugs in 2019 and the interest/commitment to supporting systemd alternatives in the scope of Debian packaging and various related friction points, they've taken to a new general resolution over weighing init system diversity.

The ballot is available on-line. The choices are:

Choice 1: F: Focus on systemd
Choice 2: B: Systemd but we support exploring alternatives
Choice 3: A: Support for multiple init systems is Important
Choice 4: D: Support non-systemd systems, without blocking progress
Choice 5: H: Support portability, without blocking progress
Choice 6: E: Support for multiple init systems is Required
Choice 7: G: Support portability and multiple implementations
Choice 8: Further Discussion

[Ed. note: I'm not sure what the letters after the choice numbers indicate, nor do I know where "C" disappeared to.]

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by barbara hudson on Tuesday December 10 2019, @02:10PM (8 children)

    by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Tuesday December 10 2019, @02:10PM (#930554) Journal
    It was probably "C Dump systemd." But that would be admitting the change was a mistake.
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  • (Score: 4, Touché) by acid andy on Tuesday December 10 2019, @02:15PM (6 children)

    by acid andy (1683) on Tuesday December 10 2019, @02:15PM (#930560) Homepage Journal

    People like you, I'm sure, would be directed to Choice 8, or failing that, the nearest exit. ;)

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    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 10 2019, @02:16PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 10 2019, @02:16PM (#930561)

      You mean Choice 9: Choose another OS

    • (Score: 2) by DeVilla on Tuesday December 10 2019, @03:55PM

      by DeVilla (5354) on Tuesday December 10 2019, @03:55PM (#930613)

      C, There you go again.

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by barbara hudson on Tuesday December 10 2019, @05:59PM (1 child)

      by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Tuesday December 10 2019, @05:59PM (#930670) Journal
      Given their cultish devotion to pushing systemd and anyone who wants to see it gone is by definition a heretic, they'd probably just throw me off the nearest rooftop .

      There's a lot of that going around among the more closed-minded. Rigging the poll so that abandoning sysyemd isn't even an option tells you that it's dishonest and they have already decided what will happen no matter what the outcome.

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      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 10 2019, @09:57PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 10 2019, @09:57PM (#930805)

        No, you're just being rude at that point. Supporting multiple init systems is what you want, totally blocking systemd is just as bad as forcing it on everyone. As long as you can choose a different init and have everything work I see no problem.

        Hmm, maybe you were half right cause "support" could mean keeping a lot of systemd changes while allowing a different init. Systemd is way beyond just init at this point...

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 10 2019, @04:05PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 10 2019, @04:05PM (#930617)

    That option is C++