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posted by martyb on Tuesday December 10 2019, @02:06PM   Printer-friendly

Debian Developers Take To Voting Over Init System Diversity

It's been five years already since the vote to transition to systemd in Debian over Upstart while now there is the new vote that has just commenced for judging the interest in "init system diversity" and just how much Debian developers care (or not) in supporting alternatives to systemd.

Due to Debian developers having differing opinions on handling non-systemd bugs in 2019 and the interest/commitment to supporting systemd alternatives in the scope of Debian packaging and various related friction points, they've taken to a new general resolution over weighing init system diversity.

The ballot is available on-line. The choices are:

Choice 1: F: Focus on systemd
Choice 2: B: Systemd but we support exploring alternatives
Choice 3: A: Support for multiple init systems is Important
Choice 4: D: Support non-systemd systems, without blocking progress
Choice 5: H: Support portability, without blocking progress
Choice 6: E: Support for multiple init systems is Required
Choice 7: G: Support portability and multiple implementations
Choice 8: Further Discussion

[Ed. note: I'm not sure what the letters after the choice numbers indicate, nor do I know where "C" disappeared to.]


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Mojibake Tengu on Tuesday December 10 2019, @03:40PM (3 children)

    by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Tuesday December 10 2019, @03:40PM (#930606) Journal

    If the true needs are divergent, any effort to converge them by just exercising power is harmful. This is what evil corporations do, like RedHat or Microsoft.
    You want cathedral, instead of bazaar. Centralism does not fit to the concept of FOSS.

    Duplication of efforts is critical factor to prevent single points of failure by concentration of errors. Linux needs more different distros, not fewer almost identical.

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  • (Score: 2) by Dr Spin on Tuesday December 10 2019, @05:23PM (2 children)

    by Dr Spin (5239) on Tuesday December 10 2019, @05:23PM (#930654)

    You want cathedral, instead of bazaar. Centralism does not fit to the concept of FOSS.

    Actually, the BSDs are cathedral like, and are a good answer if what you want is *BSD!

    OTOH closed sores is the answer if you want a pile of shite.

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    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday December 10 2019, @07:48PM

      by Bot (3902) on Tuesday December 10 2019, @07:48PM (#930733) Journal

      In the meantime, project trident, aiming to improve freebsd, transitioned to systemd-free void linux, they also stated their reasons.

      https://project-trident.org/post/os_migration/ [project-trident.org]

      So, just use freebsd is not a catch-all solution, even without considering licensing philosophies.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 10 2019, @08:22PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 10 2019, @08:22PM (#930749)

      The BSDs are a bazaar of cathedrals; each one may be a cohesive whole, but there are many to choose from.

      And, I would put forth that the cross-pollination between the BSDs are a great source of their strengths.