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on Tuesday December 10 2019, @04:00PM
from the There-Is-No-Such-Thing-As-Climate-Change dept.
from the There-Is-No-Such-Thing-As-Climate-Change dept.
Australia is on fire. Again. Happens every year around this time, but this year is worse. A lot worse, with smoke and haze covering large parts of the eastern seaboard. The effect of the fires can be felt in New Zealand where the smoke is causing blood red sunsets. Meanwhile, the Prime Minister of Australia has briefly offered a prayer in support. The deadly fires have killed hundreds of drop bears while scourging the countryside across several states.
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(Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Tuesday December 10 2019, @10:53PM (11 children)
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday December 10 2019, @11:14PM
I don't think the A/C can explain any of it, other than trying to link two things that probably have not much to do with each other.
If you search the Internet for this stuff you can wind up in the Electric Universe if you're not careful.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday December 11 2019, @12:01AM (5 children)
At the very best, one may argue more rain during winter create more fuel for the summer bushfires and be right in most of the cases.
A pity it didn't happen in this case, with Queensland [qld.gov.au] and NSW [nsw.gov.au] under intense and prolonged drought conditions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 11 2019, @12:43AM (3 children)
Yes, there are obviously more/worse droughts during the solar minimums in Australia.
Seriously... I don't know why I keep returning to this site.
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday December 11 2019, @01:00AM (2 children)
No there aren't.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 11 2019, @01:50AM (1 child)
Yes there are, that why there is always an exceptionally bad bushfire during the solar minimum (as seen in the links above).
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday December 11 2019, @07:38PM
As your links show. You do realise there are people who point to the solar minimums causing volcanic eruptions?
They're using the same umbers you are.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 11 2019, @01:21AM
Here's some satellite comparisons, and you can see the current smoke from space:
https://www.weatherwatch.net.au/weather/burnt-forests-drought-seen-by-space-satellite-comparison-of-previous-years/ [weatherwatch.net.au]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 11 2019, @12:35AM (3 children)
Where are you getting the idea there is more precipitation in Australia during the minimum? There is obviously less, making it drier. The rain is used up elsewhere.
There is a serious problem with making up strawmen on this site, maybe too many old people.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday December 11 2019, @02:53PM (1 child)
So you claim. But going from more global precipitation to less Australian precipitation requires evidence that it actually happens.
There is, but it didn't happen this time. Must be too many lazy people.
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Wednesday December 11 2019, @03:15PM
If the solar cycle effect exists, it is minor compared to the El Nino / La Nina (ENSO). When it's El Nino, South America gets extra rain and AU gets less. La Nina, the other way around.
Having said that, if a 0.01% change in atmospheric composition is going to be the end of civilization then I guess a change in the driving engine is going to have effects too.
If you cough while drinking cheap red wine it really cleans out your sinuses.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday December 11 2019, @03:40PM
Where do you get that idea? I found it interesting how the only thing said about solar cycles is that there's more precipitation during minimums. That's it. By that logic then we arrive at Australia receiving more precipitation during solar minimums. If there is some argument to make that proves whatever you think you're saying, then by all means make that argument. But it's silly to accuse me of "making up straw men", when your (or perhaps some other AC's) argument really was that flimsy.