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posted by Fnord666 on Monday December 16 2019, @07:36AM   Printer-friendly

In other words, what happens when a population suddenly stops taking fluoride in their drinking water, like Juneau's citizenry did?

Now, thanks to a recent study led by first author and public health researcher Jennifer Meyer from the University of Alaska Anchorage, we've got new insights into the subsequent effects.

In the study, Meyer assessed Medicaid dental claim billing records for two groups of children and adolescents aged 18 or under.

One of these groups represented what the researchers call "optimal" community water fluoridation (CWF) exposure: 853 non-adult patients on behalf of whom Medicaid dental claims were filed in 2003, years before the fluoride cessation began in 2007.

The other group was made up of 1,052 non-adult patients from families who similarly met Medicaid income requirements, and who made the same kind of dental claims almost a decade later, in 2012.

[...] "By taking the fluoride out of the water supply... the trade-off for that is children are going to experience one additional caries procedure per year, at a ballpark (cost) of US$300 more per child," Meyer explained to KTOO News.

Source: https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-what-happened-when-a-city-in-alaska-took-fluoride-out-of-its-drinking-water

Reference: Jennifer Meyer, Vasileios Margaritis & Aaron Mendelsohn, Consequences of community water fluoridation cessation for Medicaid-eligible children and adolescents in Juneau, Alaska, BMC Oral Health, https://doi.org/10.1186/s12903-018-0684-2


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Monday December 16 2019, @02:56PM (6 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday December 16 2019, @02:56PM (#932855)

    What they're not doing is considering the "root cause" of the caries.

    It would seem to be a safe assumption that underlying diet and other factors remained relatively constant during the period studied, however- that rate of one cavity per year might (just might) drop equally dramatically with a dietary change such as elimination of sugar-soft-drinks from the childrens' diet as it does with fluoridation of the municipal water.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 16 2019, @04:04PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 16 2019, @04:04PM (#932877)

    Sugar doesn't matter so much as pH. I wonder if the fluoridation process affects the pH at all.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by HiThere on Monday December 16 2019, @07:23PM (1 child)

      by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 16 2019, @07:23PM (#932972) Journal

      pH is important, but is relatively independent. The water is carried in metal pipes, so the pH will be normalized. The fluoride salts that get embedded in the teeth are less sensitive to acid than what they replace.

      That said, I'm not really impressed with the study. It's not long term enough. There is evidence (I'm not sure how good) that excess (whatever that means) fluoride will eventually affect the chances of getting cancer. But you'd need a longitudinal study lasting for at least 30 years to pin that down. (Probably 40 or 50 years would be better.) But that's going to have a lot more effect on medical costs than a few extra cavities.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 16 2019, @11:47PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 16 2019, @11:47PM (#933078)

        No, it isn't independent, the reason sugars are bad for your teeth is because bacteria in your mouth eats it and shits out acids that lower the pH. Sugar on its own does nothing to enamel.

        Good grief, the nonsense in this thread.

  • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday December 17 2019, @10:22AM (2 children)

    by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Tuesday December 17 2019, @10:22AM (#933223) Homepage
    Absolutely true. One of the many other foibles the US is internationally known for is its obsession with sweet foodstuffs and drinks. However, that goes back decades (and even counting decades, I might run out of fingers). I remember seeing a %sugar in breakfast cereals survey for the UK vs. the US about 25-30 years ago, and your average was higher than out highest even back then. I genuinely don't think there's been significant change upwards in the US in that time literally because you had almost nowhere to expand into. Until you've started just having cotton candy for brekky nowadays.
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    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday December 17 2019, @03:48PM (1 child)

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Tuesday December 17 2019, @03:48PM (#933307)

      One of the many other foibles the US is internationally known for

      Meanwhile, the UK is known for their excellent teeth and fine cooking. /s

      The U.S. is chronically guilty of letting the packaged food and many other industries abuse the population, seemingly profits are our king.

      started just having cotton candy for brekky nowadays

      It's pretty ridiculous here, but more often it's disguised as "health bars," or "designer coffees" - things that at first glance you wouldn't expect to be hiding so much high fructose corn syrup. It really is the corn farming lobby (think: Monsanto) that has done the most damage over the past 50 years.

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      • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday December 17 2019, @04:29PM

        by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Tuesday December 17 2019, @04:29PM (#933316) Homepage
        No idea what the UK is legitimately known for nowadays, I left there decades ago for a reason. I'm happy to credit them with their incredible ability to stab themselves in the foot, but it's not as impressive as some other countries' methods of pedal punishment.
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