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posted by Fnord666 on Monday December 16 2019, @07:36AM   Printer-friendly

In other words, what happens when a population suddenly stops taking fluoride in their drinking water, like Juneau's citizenry did?

Now, thanks to a recent study led by first author and public health researcher Jennifer Meyer from the University of Alaska Anchorage, we've got new insights into the subsequent effects.

In the study, Meyer assessed Medicaid dental claim billing records for two groups of children and adolescents aged 18 or under.

One of these groups represented what the researchers call "optimal" community water fluoridation (CWF) exposure: 853 non-adult patients on behalf of whom Medicaid dental claims were filed in 2003, years before the fluoride cessation began in 2007.

The other group was made up of 1,052 non-adult patients from families who similarly met Medicaid income requirements, and who made the same kind of dental claims almost a decade later, in 2012.

[...] "By taking the fluoride out of the water supply... the trade-off for that is children are going to experience one additional caries procedure per year, at a ballpark (cost) of US$300 more per child," Meyer explained to KTOO News.

Source: https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-what-happened-when-a-city-in-alaska-took-fluoride-out-of-its-drinking-water

Reference: Jennifer Meyer, Vasileios Margaritis & Aaron Mendelsohn, Consequences of community water fluoridation cessation for Medicaid-eligible children and adolescents in Juneau, Alaska, BMC Oral Health, https://doi.org/10.1186/s12903-018-0684-2


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  • (Score: 1, Troll) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Monday December 16 2019, @05:57PM (3 children)

    by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Monday December 16 2019, @05:57PM (#932926) Journal

    What if i told you that your brain is more important than your teeth?

    What if I told you that therefore preventative measures to protect teeth that include neurotoxins are only convincing to people who have already had their brain treated with neurotoxins?

    What if I told you that once you are 60 and have been drinking neurotoxins your whole life, you may be resistant to changing your mind not just because of the neurotoxins, but because it is quite difficult at that point to admit you are that much of a dumbass and may prefer dementia to reason or reality?

    What if I told you that no one, no one, believes that vaccines don't work or are not a good idea, but that what you consider anti-science anti-vaxxers are actually people who correctly do not trust their government to provide proper vaccines without performing human experimentation or who knows what on us?

    Your pro vax position is a pro-governmental-trust position in disguise and guess what,

    If they let epstein get away with it and then escape prison, and your precious CNN or Fox signed off on this, how could you ever trust them to care about your child when they didn't care about unlimited amounts of 13 year old victoria's secret models being trafficked?

    If epstein is something we just have to accept, then it sounds to me like we also just have to accept whatever mysetry concoction of chemicals the government commands us to take, as 'pro-vaxxers' see the world.

    That is just pro-gullibility among people who probably still think oswald acted alone and that epstein killed himself etc, and they fell for trump's bullshit about cleaning the swamp and getting out of the middle east lol.

    And as a country that should want to defend itself against mysterious global forces seeking to disintegrate it, blanketing the water supply with neurotoxins and injecting every child with whoknowswhat is going to be something we resist to the extent we aren't ready to volunteer for our brainslug-meter or whatever they have coming.

    Or we could just let ethos capital handle all of it, they sure have promised they can be trusted with public trust. sigh /s

    You should at this point notice that the english language has been shredded with words like anti-vaxxer, and that the logic of brushing your teeth more or eating less sugar does not even compute compared to a centralized one size fits all technological solution, even if it is just dumping mining waste in the drinking water and charging people for it.

    I don't know, there seems to be a huge problem with american civilians being stupid, and that is bleeding over into the u.s. military to the point I wonder if anything going on in the usa is viable.

    Israel does not flouridate and you might find it interesting what vaccinations israelis accept compared to what is foisted on americans.

    Which is just to compare a country that cares about whether it is subjugated to the media in a country that is being totally brainwashed into subjugation. Not like that makes a difference in the sanity of the discourse and elected representatives for some odd reason.

    https://archive.is/wZMMJ [archive.is]
    https://archive.is/eSLh7 [archive.is]
    https://archive.is/uEvFY [archive.is]
    https://archive.is/6uwoN [archive.is]
    https://archive.is/QBVQJ [archive.is]
    https://archive.is/TmRS6 [archive.is]
    https://archive.ph/cVZBQ [archive.ph]
    https://archive.is/xXs6r [archive.is]

    And of course thesesystemsarefailing.net because they were built to rely on trust and someone is destroying all of that, and it is not an accident. (and it is not just 'the jews' i am not that guy, but zionism is a big part of it or your analysis is a joke)

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  • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 16 2019, @10:03PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 16 2019, @10:03PM (#933029)

    Hilarious. Israel requires and recommends MORE vaccines then the U.S. Both in the number of diseases and rounds. Don't worry, I'll wait while you respin your conspiracy theory.

  • (Score: 2) by dwilson on Tuesday December 17 2019, @02:44AM (1 child)

    by dwilson (2599) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 17 2019, @02:44AM (#933127) Journal

    What if i told you that your brain is more important than your teeth?

    I'd cheerfully agree.

    What if I told you that therefore preventative measures to protect teeth that include neurotoxins are only convincing to people who have already had their brain treated with neurotoxins?

    ...I'd start to look at you in that special way people use for those suspected of being off their meds.

    What if I told you that once you are 60 and have been drinking neurotoxins your whole life, you may be resistant to changing your mind not just because of the neurotoxins, but because it is quite difficult at that point to admit you are that much of a dumbass and may prefer dementia to reason or reality?

    I'd stop wondering if you were off your meds.

    What if I told you that no one, no one, believes that vaccines don't work or are not a good idea, but that what you consider anti-science anti-vaxxers are actually people who correctly do not trust their government to provide proper vaccines without performing human experimentation or who knows what on us?

    I'd tell you that's bullshit, to your face, because I happen to know someone who believes vaccines don't work and aren't a good idea, and they're just not smart enough to distrust the government properly. It only takes one counter-example to disprove a theory.

    Your pro vax position is a pro-governmental-trust position in disguise and guess what,

    If they let epstein get away with it and then escape prison, and your precious CNN or Fox signed off on this, how could you ever trust them to care about your child when they didn't care about unlimited amounts of 13 year old victoria's secret models being trafficked?

    If epstein is something we just have to accept, then it sounds to me like we also just have to accept whatever mysetry concoction of chemicals the government commands us to take, as 'pro-vaxxers' see the world.

    We're veering back to off-the-meds territory...

    That is just pro-gullibility among people who probably still think oswald acted alone and that epstein killed himself etc, and they fell for trump's bullshit about cleaning the swamp and getting out of the middle east lol.

    Trump's an idiotic buffoon with enough money he can't lose (except his Presidency, if we're lucky), Epstein is entirely irrelevant but the media cater to the idiotic masses who love a good (bad) story, and Oswald was well before my time, so who gives a fuck.

    And as a country that should want to defend itself against mysterious global forces seeking to disintegrate it, blanketing the water supply with neurotoxins and injecting every child with whoknowswhat is going to be something we resist to the extent we aren't ready to volunteer for our brainslug-meter or whatever they have coming.

    As the country who for the past hundred years has more often than not BEEN the mysterious global force seeking to topple foreign governments and usually succeeding, you've got some serious house-cleaning to do before you start looking for bogeymen elsewhere.

    I was going to do a line-by-line reply but the further in I got, the less I had to work with. I'm going to go feed my fish instead.

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    - D
    • (Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Tuesday December 17 2019, @01:41PM

      by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Tuesday December 17 2019, @01:41PM (#933252) Journal

      https://archive.is/BGPJK [archive.is]
      https://archive.is/uEvFY [archive.is]
      https://archive.is/SDcbq [archive.is]

      Your reinforce my point, you are someone who doesn't take history or trust of government seriously, so yes of course my ideas that are not on television seem insane to you.

      What you consider hearing 'crazy talk' is actually just listenening to new ideas, which you are trained to despise not unlike pavlovs dog.

      You are correct the united states govt and military have and are still subverting countries all over the world, or are a tool to do so for someone else. But this doesn't keep the civilian population safe, we are just breeders or experiments to them. Or sex slaves.

      If you think epstein isnt important, then you are the cow in this picture, and you can probably get paid to repeat things on reddit to cover for child traffickers, which may suit your uninformed mercenary attitude:

      https://archive.is/QBVQJ [archive.is]