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posted by janrinok on Monday December 16 2019, @09:44PM   Printer-friendly
from the confusing-cost-with-effectiveness dept.

Picked via Bruce Schneier's Cryptogram, the story of a massive electronic vote miscount, luckily paper ballots were available

Vote totals in a Northampton County judge's race showed one candidate, Abe Kassis, a Democrat, had just 164 votes out of 55,000 ballots across more than 100 precincts. Some machines reported zero votes for him. In a county with the ability to vote for a straight-party ticket, one candidate's zero votes was a near statistical impossibility. Something had gone quite wrong.

The worse news:

The machines that broke in Northampton County are called the ExpressVoteXL and are made by Election Systems & Software, a major manufacturer of election machines used across the country. The ExpressVoteXL is among their newest and most high-end machines, a luxury "one-stop" voting system that combines a 32-inch touch screen and a paper ballot printer.

The good news was that the chairwoman of the county Republicans realized the numbers made no sense and promptly initiated an investigation. When officials counted the paper backup ballots generated by the same machines, they realized Kassis had narrowly won.

How many trees still need to die until humans learn how to do voting properly?

Note: the original story ran on nytimes, but I respect their choice to not let me read their stories with 'Do not track' activated


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  • (Score: 2) by shortscreen on Tuesday December 17 2019, @05:33AM (1 child)

    by shortscreen (2252) on Tuesday December 17 2019, @05:33AM (#933173) Journal

    The situations are nothing at all alike, because whether someone in Ukraine decides to investigate something that happened in Ukraine is their own goddamn business and they don't need permission from the DNC.

    pressure a *foreign government*

    Pressuring foreign governments is SOP here. Hate to break it to you.

    American Private citizens (on both sides of the aisle), using private funds to pay private, American, entities

    Christopher Steele is not an American. And he claimed his sources were Russian (not American).

    foreign government to smear a political opponent

    What smear? Dems and their MSM friends say that Biden didn't do anything (hah!). So what's he got to worry about? Are politically-motivated investigations only OK if they are DNC approved? Or should politicians just never be investigated at all, because it might "influence an election"?

    Actually it seems to be even simpler than that. The 2016 email leaks and the hypothetical Burisma investigation are both denounced as "election interference" so the criteria must be that anything that makes Dems look bad is "interference."

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 17 2019, @03:34PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 17 2019, @03:34PM (#933295)

    Pressuring foreign governments to do private political bidding by exercising the power of the Presidency is not SOP anywhere. Hate to break that to you. (Kinda the big difference between what Biden did in Ukraine and what Trumpiani was trying for. One was statecraft. The other was partisan politics.)

    And you're childishly naive if you think that a lie from a foreign government about a candidate (Biden) would carry no weight. In fact, doesn't even have to be a lie... can just be an "investigation" about something that has been objectively proven to be debunked by anyone not drinking the Republican Kool-Aid which can cause damage.

    Now... if Ukraine just came out of the blue, no Giuliani or Trump involved, and said, "Yeah, we're reopening the investigation into the dead horse..." Perfectly legal. If Trump had been smart enough to keep his big nose out of it and not use official communications to pressure the Ukrainian government to take calls and meetings with private individuals (Giuliani, etc.) fused with government officials (Barr, Sondland) there would likely be no issue. Especially so if Trump were smart enough to not fuck with the Congressional mandated Ukrainian aid in a way Congress knew nothing about, whether coincidental or intentional. If Trump were smart enough to not conflate his political activities with his duties as President, no trouble. But the reality is that Trump isn't that smart. King Trump thinks anything he does is legal, and doesn't stop to think how it might look to mention needing favors in context of whether or not Ukraine can purchase weaponry they need to defend from Russia.

    TL/DR: Trump's not smart enough to be President.

    Oh, and if Steele were actually employed by MI6... yeah, same problem. But he wasn't.