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posted by martyb on Thursday January 02 2020, @11:43AM   Printer-friendly
from the prepare-for-sharply-worded-letters dept.

More drugmakers hike U.S. prices as new year begins:

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Drugmakers including Bristol-Myers Squibb Co (BMY.N), Gilead Sciences Inc (GILD.O), and Biogen Inc (BIIB.O) hiked U.S. list prices on more than 50 drugs on Wednesday, bringing total New Year’s Day drug price increases to more than 250, according to data analyzed by healthcare research firm 3 Axis Advisors.

Reuters reported on Tuesday that drugmakers including Pfizer Inc (PFE.N), GlaxoSmithKline PLC (GSK.L) and Sanofi SA (SASY.PA) were planning to increase prices on more than 200 drugs in the United States on Jan. 1.

Nearly all of the price increases are below 10% and the median price increase is around 5%, according to 3 Axis.

More early year price increases could still be announced.

Soaring U.S. prescription drug prices are expected to again be a central issue in the presidential election. President Donald Trump, who made bringing them down a core pledge of his 2016 campaign, is running for re-election in 2020.

[...] The United States, which leaves drug pricing to market competition, has higher prices than in other countries where governments directly or indirectly control the costs, making it the world’s most lucrative market for manufacturers.


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Tokolosh on Thursday January 02 2020, @03:01PM (11 children)

    by Tokolosh (585) on Thursday January 02 2020, @03:01PM (#938624)

    If you don't like antidepressants, don't take them. If you don't like abortion, don't have one. If you don't like gay marriage, don't marry. But don't tell me what I can do.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by barbara hudson on Thursday January 02 2020, @04:23PM (10 children)

    by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Thursday January 02 2020, @04:23PM (#938658) Journal
    If it can be proven that antidepressants depressants don't work (it has been many times, even in drug trials from the manufacturers) and that they cause harm (just read the side effects) then they are defective products and need to be pulled from the market. Even more than lead paint and leaded gas, which actually did what they were sold for.
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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 02 2020, @05:02PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 02 2020, @05:02PM (#938675)

      lead paint and leaded gas, which actually did what they were sold for.

      You've chatted to Runaway then?

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday January 02 2020, @06:10PM (2 children)

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday January 02 2020, @06:10PM (#938720) Journal

        First time I've heard of brain damage being a feature rather than a bug!

        • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 02 2020, @07:41PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 02 2020, @07:41PM (#938766)

          Are you familiar with the Democrat presidential candidates?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 02 2020, @11:05PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 02 2020, @11:05PM (#938862)

            That would be lack of brain damage as a feature. Have you seen the sitting Republican choice?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 02 2020, @10:31PM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 02 2020, @10:31PM (#938849)

      If it can be proven that antidepressants depressants don't work (it has been many times, even in drug trials from the manufacturers)

      FALSE.

      There are many different types of anti-depressants. They work differently. Your statement is as valid as saying that wheels don't work.

      Secondly. Most of what you are talking about are double-blind studies where drugs are tested vs. placebo. What you miss, is that placebo is a valid medical effect.

      Anti-depressants work. What they don't work against is being sad or unhappy.

      • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Thursday January 02 2020, @10:44PM (2 children)

        by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Thursday January 02 2020, @10:44PM (#938857) Journal
        Major depression is not caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, period. Even the UN realized that back in 2017. Please try to keep up.

        That's why there's increasing calls even from psychiatrists and psychologists to abandon chemical treatments, deep brain stimulation, and electroshock. They don't treat the cause, and the side effects make the patient much more likely to relapse.

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        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by NickM on Friday January 03 2020, @03:14AM (1 child)

          by NickM (2867) on Friday January 03 2020, @03:14AM (#938929) Journal

          Those drugs truly helps some peoples, nobody really understand why¹. I suffer from crippling unmanageable anxiety without underlying cause, 10mg of escitalopram² is the difference between me not leaving my house unless forced by my hunger and me having a great job where I am productive to society and appreciated by my colleagues.

          1- second paragraph [sciencemag.org]

          2- Not the racemix citalopram, that's a drug with a strong anticholinergic component responsible for almost all of the off target side effects. Most newish drugs, not the rarer new new drugs, replacing existing one have a tremendously better UX but the government only pays for the shitty yet almost equally effective version so it is what most Canadian doctors are prescribing by default ! Luckily for me, I have gold plated work insurance to complement the public regime so I get the fanciest drugs for almost nothing.

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          • (Score: 4, Interesting) by VLM on Friday January 03 2020, @12:19PM

            by VLM (445) on Friday January 03 2020, @12:19PM (#939031)

            I'm glad that works for you, but you two are talking about orthogonal issues.

            Lets say we all agree that vitamin C cures scurvy. Given that scurvy seems to be the disease of not having enough vit C that seems pretty likely.

            Now we can argue all day about how vit C is a scam because it doesn't cure broken legs, or how marketing aspirin as a treatment for scurvy is not a scam. But none of that has anything to do with the core issues of what scurvy is or what vit C can actually treat.

            Note that aspirin is not the worst idea for scurvy anyway. It won't fix the problem, but it'll sweep it under the rug via pain killing anti-inflamatory effect. There seems to be a common problem among non-scientific non-medical people of not being able to tell the difference between something that fixes the symptoms vs fixing the actual cause of the problem. This is an especially big problem for psych drugs, although not entirely all.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 03 2020, @02:18AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 03 2020, @02:18AM (#938914)

        > What you miss, is that placebo is a valid medical effect.

        And we've found the the guy that believes in homeopathy.

        The null effect and placebo response are two ways of saying the same thing. A drug is NOT effective if it is no more effective than a placebo. Only pseudo-scientific magical water promoting quacks and frauds will tell you otherwise (and their friends promoting magical needle pokes).

        If all you want is a placebo, use a sugar pill, or hell, a magical medical chocolate chip cookie-- but, not something that causes harm.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 03 2020, @12:50PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 03 2020, @12:50PM (#939038)

          And we've found the the guy that believes in homeopathy.

          No, you dumbass.

          https://www.health.harvard.edu/mental-health/the-power-of-the-placebo-effect [harvard.edu]

          When it come to things like mild depression, placebo effect is fucking important and has nothing to do with homeopathy bullshit.

          If all you want is a placebo, use a sugar pill, or hell, a magical medical chocolate chip cookie-- but, not something that causes harm.

          Placebo also causes harm and results in side effects, by the definition of the double blind studies and the required reporting standards