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China has sent armed vessels and fishing boats into Indonesian waters fueling tensions between the nations in another move by China to try to claim ownership of the region. With China now deliberately sending vessels into the waters of other countries, their actions may be seen as the start of armed hostilities. For years China has made political and financial maneuvers to claim control over other nations through debt and intimidation. Indonesia has refused to negotiate with China on the matter as they see the actions as China invading their territory. With both sides bringing both sky and sea vehicles into the region the outcome of this issue may be a deciding point to determine whether or not China will be pushed out of the region. While the ruling by the UN is very clear about the region, China refuses to accept it.
China appears to have forgotten why the UN was formed in the first place. Japan learned a hard lesson in 1945.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday January 10 2020, @01:01PM (6 children)
But are they any good [soylentnews.org] at it? Just because you play chess, doesn't make you a grandmaster.
(Score: 4, Funny) by Phoenix666 on Friday January 10 2020, @04:12PM (5 children)
No, the long-term strategic thinkers the Chinese are feared to be are so masterful that they got their asses kicked for several centuries in a row by what were mice from the other side of the world. Concessions were forced on them by the French. By the French. That's gotta just be fucking humiliating.
So, yeah, if we're gonna award the sobriquet of "Master of Long-term Strategy" to anybody in East Asia, it would have to be the Japanese, hands-down. After Commodore Perry they got down to business damn quick and within 40 years were defeating Russia, a major European power, in a war.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 3, Informative) by dry on Saturday January 11 2020, @02:05AM (4 children)
You must be American, can't accept that the French beat you in your war of independence and can't admit that the only reason you beat the British was from the help from France.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday January 11 2020, @06:10AM (2 children)
(Score: 2) by dry on Saturday January 11 2020, @06:32AM (1 child)
Yes, a small united force can beat a large not united force.
Actually, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-French_War [wikipedia.org], it was basically a draw militarily but the French may have won diplomatically, though that is unclear as the French government fell due to the peace treaty. Both sides claimed victory.
The only other war that I can find that involved the French and Chinese was the second opium war which was an alliance between the UK, the USA and the French and considering what was going on in China at the time, namely the Taiping Revolution, one of the bloodiest wars ever, it is not surprising the Chinese lost.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday January 11 2020, @01:02PM
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Sunday January 12 2020, @10:46PM
Of course I skipped over the whole Napoleonic era and key French assistance at Yorktown.
It's true I punctured the grand illusion of Chinese strategic brilliance at French expense. I weighed going with the Dutch instead but they don't have a sense of humor. :-)
Washington DC delenda est.