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posted by janrinok on Friday January 17 2020, @05:07PM   Printer-friendly
from the taking-the-piss dept.

WSJ runs this story (alternative MSN same text)

HONG KONG—Japanese citizen Midori Nishida was checking in to a flight in Hong Kong in November to visit her parents on Saipan, a U.S. island in the Pacific, when airline staff made an unusual demand. She had to take a pregnancy test if she wanted to board.

Ms. Nishida, 25 years old, was escorted to a public rest room and handed a strip to urinate on.

The test was part of the response of one airline, Hong Kong Express Airways, to immigration concerns in Saipan. The island has become a destination for women intending to give birth on U.S. territory, making their babies eligible for American citizenship. In 2018, more tourists than residents gave birth in the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, in which Saipan is the largest island.

Pregnant foreigners aren't barred from entering the U.S., or from giving birth in U.S. territory. But immigration authorities can turn away visitors if they are found to be lying about their purpose of travel, or if they come to the U.S. planning to have a medical procedure, such as giving birth, but can't prove they have the funds to pay for it.

Airlines are required to take back passengers who are denied entry—an incentive to ensure that those who board their flights are likely to be deemed admissible to the U.S.

One would think the birth tourism was reaching crisis levels in Saipan; but TFA has a chart showing 582 births by tourists in 2018.

Heck, looks like even Trump's businesses are happy to oblige if the price is right.


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by GreatOutdoors on Friday January 17 2020, @06:06PM (10 children)

    by GreatOutdoors (6408) on Friday January 17 2020, @06:06PM (#944627)

    I know this isn't an unbiased crowd, but I do think that the jab at Trump as a personal note in the main heading is a bit out of line. Put a statement there, then express your anti-Trump feelings below where they belong, in the comments section. Reserve the main heading for useful information.

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  • (Score: 2) by GreatOutdoors on Friday January 17 2020, @06:10PM

    by GreatOutdoors (6408) on Friday January 17 2020, @06:10PM (#944631)

    Sorry for the mis-type on the name. I can't moderate my own comment, so if another mod can do it, please correct the title to janrinok.

    Thanks.

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  • (Score: -1, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 17 2020, @06:11PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 17 2020, @06:11PM (#944632)

    Trump is a civil rights violator, now it has been revealed Sanderrs violates the civil rights of women too:

    Anonymous sources allegedly told CNN Monday that Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders told Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren that a woman can’t beat President Donald Trump in November.

    CNN reports that four people confirmed Sanders’ statement to Warren, including two people Warren allegedly spoke with directly after the meeting and two others familiar with the conversation that took place at Warren’s Washington D.C. apartment in December 2018 before the two senators had officially entered the presidential contest.

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/01/13/anonymous-sources-claim-sanders-told-warren-a-woman-couldnt-win/ [thefederalist.com]

    Violated laws:

    42 U.S. Code § 2000a
    29 CFR § 1604.11
    Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 SEC. 701

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 17 2020, @07:05PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 17 2020, @07:05PM (#944665)

      it's predicting what would happen, not barring her from doing anything, you idiot

      and besides, anonymous sources can claim whatever they want but he denies it

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 17 2020, @07:30PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 17 2020, @07:30PM (#944681)

        It shall be an unlawful employment practice for an employment agency to fail or refuse to refer for employment, or otherwise to discriminate against, any individual because of his race, color, religion, sex, or national origin, or to classify or refer for employment any individual on the basis of his race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

        As a US Senator, Warren is an employee of all US citizens, including Sanders. Sanders told here she can't win a place in the Whorehouse. He should have encouraged her ("refer for employment") to take the job. Instead he decided to violate her civil rights.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 17 2020, @08:21PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 17 2020, @08:21PM (#944699)

          Sanders is not in charge of who gets the job. the fact that he's competing for the same job didn't tip you off about that?

          I can say I can't fly after jumping off a cliff, it's not because somebody else is stopping me.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Friday January 17 2020, @07:50PM (3 children)

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 17 2020, @07:50PM (#944685) Journal

    jab at Trump as a personal note in the main heading

    The main heading doesn't mention Trump. The link in the story does. On my screen, the main heading says:

    Hong Kong Express Airways Sorry for Making Woman Take Pregnancy Test

    However, assuming that you are referring to the link in the story, did you read the associated link? Is it not relevant to the discussion?

    This main story is about people moving to a place administered by the USA in order to ensure that their children automatically qualify for US citizenship when born. The second story does not claim that Trump is personally involved or benefits from what is happening in Miami, but his businesses certainly seem to making the most of the opportunity. That is precisely what the intro to that link says:

    Heck, looks like even Trump's businesses are happy to oblige if the price is right.

    Trump might be blissfully unaware of it - but one would suspect that is not the case.

    Would you prefer that the submitter wrote (not I as you seem to be assuming) 'Businesses owned by a gentleman who happens to have a high position in the US Government'? I don't think that would fool anyone and we could be accused of misquoting the source, which is the DailyBeast. The DailyBeast story also indicates that it is not something that is happening in insignificant numbers in a place remote from the USA. I think that article makes a valid and relevant point, although I can see that some with strong political views might feel it is undeserving.

    Today in one story I am accused of being alt-right supporter and of favouring Trump and the Republicans in my selection of stories, and then here of taking an opposite stance and 'taking a jab at Trump'. I must be doing something right - both sides hate me. :)

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 17 2020, @07:54PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 17 2020, @07:54PM (#944688)

      Everyone is obsessed with Trump, it is the best advertising I have ever seen.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 18 2020, @07:23AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 18 2020, @07:23AM (#944904)

      I must be doing something right - both sides hate me. :)

      Yes, love, you're doing just fine.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 18 2020, @09:04PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 18 2020, @09:04PM (#945084)

      I'm gonna need a source on someone accusing you of being an alt-right supporter. Aristarchus doesn't count.

  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday January 18 2020, @07:21AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 18 2020, @07:21AM (#944902) Journal

    I know this isn't an unbiased crowd, but I do think that the jab at Trump as a personal note in the main heading is a bit out of line.

    Really? Why?
    Look, I wasn't aware that birth tourism is a thing until I stumbled over TFA. I googled and the first result page contained the link. And I thought that has to be some form of hypocrisy if rich russians are welcomed while mid-class chinese are not.

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