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posted by janrinok on Sunday January 19 2020, @12:41AM   Printer-friendly
from the lern-ur-science-fm-Twitter dept.

The U.S. share of global science and technology activity has shrunk in some areas even as absolute activity has continued to grow, as China and other Asian countries have invested in science and engineering education and increased their research spending.

That's one of the main takeaways of the "State of U.S. Science and Engineering" 2020 report, published by the National Science Board Wednesday. The report has historically been published every other year, but starting with this year's edition, the NSB is transitioning its format from a single report published every two years to a series of shorter reports issued more frequently.

"While the U.S. remains a leading player, other countries have seen the benefits of investing in research and education and are following our example," said Julia Phillips, chair of the NSB Science and Engineering Policy Committee. "While China is not the only story, its dramatic annual rate of R&D [research and development] growth is impressive. Other countries have seen the benefits of investing in research, and China is on a path to shortly become the world's largest R&D performer.

National Science Board report finds US dominance in science is slipping
State of U.S. Science and Engineering - 2020 report


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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @02:51PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @02:51PM (#945295)

    You say Traditional Chinese Medicine as if the government isn't spending tons of money on research into the safety and efficacy of those traditional practices. You also say that as if there isn't at least some access to more modern forms of treatment, which there is. There are issues with Chinese medicine, but what you're saying is inaccurate.

    They use TCM because it often times works. Yes, proof by induction isn't great, but doing medical research is hard and there's a lot of medical practices in the west that are based on even less. The recommendations for sodium intake are based on the experiences of 6 patients in France with high blood pressure from the better part of a century ago. And nobody seems to think that's a problem.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @05:42PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @05:42PM (#945396)

    Western medicine is driven by unthinking application of a catalog of assumed probabilities. Just read about a case where a thirteen year old girl was vomiting up her food and losing a lot of weight. They gave her psych pills, because girls like that must have bulimia. A year later she comes back with the vomiting and refkux. Now they scanned her and found out her stomach was herniated through her diaphragm. They let her keep the stomach, installed a grommet to prevent her stomach from herniating again. She comes back a while later with the same symptoms. Doctors order another scan and now discover she actually suffers from SMA syndrome, which may have been the cause for all her problems.
    A rare disease for sure, but it shows the lack of broader analysis in reaching a treatment decision.

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Sunday January 19 2020, @11:23PM (1 child)

      by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Sunday January 19 2020, @11:23PM (#945539) Homepage
      Great example. Clearly they should have gone straight for the tiger penis.
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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @03:16AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @03:16AM (#945636)

        Tiger penis may have been better for her than the psych drugs.

  • (Score: 2) by darkfeline on Sunday January 19 2020, @11:23PM (1 child)

    by darkfeline (1030) on Sunday January 19 2020, @11:23PM (#945540) Homepage

    >They use TCM because it often times works.

    People pray to God because it often times works. We forget when it doesn't.

    As a previous poster stated, people are people, i.e. stupid and so very fallible.

    The Chinese are very good at double think. They praise TCM, but when shit hits the fan, they go to a Western doctor. They praise their country, but those that have the money are moving it and their families to the West as fast as possible. They praise socialism, but they're even more capitalist than the West.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @04:59AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @04:59AM (#945665)

      The point you're ignoring is that they're engaging in research to evaluate whether or not it's working and when it does work weather it works better than other options.

      I get that it's China so, they don't know anything about medicine, hurr, hurr, hurr, but you're making yourself look like a moron. I used to live over there and they use both, it's not unusual to go to a doctor and receive both medicine and herbs to address the problem.