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posted by martyb on Sunday January 19 2020, @07:34PM   Printer-friendly
from the pointed-comments dept.

Sheffield-based company Viners has produced the "Assure" range, square-ended knives which are "shaped to reduce and prevent injuries, accidents and fatalities." With knife crimes in England and Wales at their highest in a decade, a 3% increase on last year and the highest level since 2009, this new knife is intended to not be used in crimes and only in the kitchen. While anti-stabbing messages have been left on fastfood containers and a crackdown on knife crime has been tried, for which included limiting the sale of knives, so far nothing has blunted the knife based problem.

When have social problems been solved by technical solutions?


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by choose another one on Sunday January 19 2020, @09:19PM (15 children)

    by choose another one (515) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 19 2020, @09:19PM (#945466)

    Yeah, precisely (and concur on the non-pointy knives for cooking - I dropped one of mine and knocked the point off, now it just gets used for cutting cake).

    Except, that if you don't have a pointy knife you will simply find a way to do what you want with a non-pointy one.

    After all, machetes (often/usually) don't have points and no one ever died from being slashed with one of those, did they?

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  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @09:34PM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @09:34PM (#945473)

    Machetes are really bad at peeling tomatoes, though.
    I like knives with a point.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @09:47PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @09:47PM (#945483)

      Teeth are really good at eating tomato skin. Just sayin'.

      • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @09:55PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 19 2020, @09:55PM (#945490)

        Don't tell me how to cook!

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DrkShadow on Sunday January 19 2020, @10:35PM (3 children)

      by DrkShadow (1404) on Sunday January 19 2020, @10:35PM (#945506)

      Use a serrated / scalloped knife to cut tomatoes. The flat edge of a knife just squishes them. Seriously, get away from it.

      My "vegetable" knife was in the dishwasher when I was cooking a burger -- needed a tomato slice on the quick. Used the finely serrated knife, have never looked back. No need to "poke" it before I can start cutting. No shredded mess as you might expect, either.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by Snotnose on Sunday January 19 2020, @11:57PM (2 children)

        by Snotnose (1623) on Sunday January 19 2020, @11:57PM (#945556)

        Use a serrated / scalloped knife to cut tomatoes. The flat edge of a knife just squishes them. Seriously, get away from it.

        You need to sharpen your knife, assuming you meant sharp edge instead of flat edge. Yeah, serrated knives have their uses. But my chefs knife can easily slice and dice tomatos.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @04:18AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @04:18AM (#945649)

          This thread is about slicing and dicing humans, which begs the question, should the meat be marinated overnight in a sweet and sour sauce? Can the cat eat the bones without having to worry about splinters?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @12:57PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @12:57PM (#945774)

            Actually, it *raises* the question. Begging the question is something different.

            https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/53/Begging-the-Question

    • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Monday January 20 2020, @02:15AM (3 children)

      by MostCynical (2589) on Monday January 20 2020, @02:15AM (#945604) Journal

      Not bad for carving pumpkins, watermelons, or bodies, though.

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      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday January 20 2020, @02:43AM (2 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 20 2020, @02:43AM (#945618) Journal

        Not bad for carving pumpkins, watermelons, or bodies, though.

        Have you tried a chainsaw? Environment considerations aside**, they work so much better for carving, especially in the latter case.

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        • (Score: 3, Touché) by MostCynical on Monday January 20 2020, @02:55AM (1 child)

          by MostCynical (2589) on Monday January 20 2020, @02:55AM (#945626) Journal

          Really depends on your prefernce for speed over tidiness. This is why every trade needs apprentices- someone to clean up and clean the tools.

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          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday January 20 2020, @03:19AM

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 20 2020, @03:19AM (#945637) Journal

            With the note that both the machete and the chainsaw will need cleaning anyway, I concede the point that the clean use of a chainsaw requires higher level of mastery and, consequently, a longer practice to the artistry levels able top arrest the escalation of the mess.

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  • (Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @02:41AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @02:41AM (#945617)

    After all, machetes (often/usually) don't have points and no one ever died from being slashed with one of those, did they?

    Ever been to Rwanda?

    And yes they do have points

  • (Score: 2) by qzm on Monday January 20 2020, @11:29AM

    by qzm (3260) on Monday January 20 2020, @11:29AM (#945744)

    I can only assume you cook with only one knife? how odd.

    What they seem to have done is reinvented the japanese Nakiri or Usuba, flat ended knives for vegetable cutting.
    The Japanese (and my apologies to the rest of asia, I know you have these also) style of vegetable cutting is to 'chop' not 'rock'.

    These quite possible predate Christ, so... not the newest idea ever.

    Of course this is nothing but a cheap marketing ploy, but hey.

    Also, I would rather be attacked by someone with a small stabbing knife than with a good usuba, because they would open you up rather nastily.. stabbing is not always the mode damaging attack.

  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday January 20 2020, @01:23PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 20 2020, @01:23PM (#945791) Journal

    You can put a point on a knife, easily enough. Old man showed me a long time ago. Sit down on a nice concrete sidewalk, parking lot, whatever. Start sweeping that knive back and forth, like you're trying to peel the top off the concrete. It took him about fifteen minutes to put a new point on a nice buck knife with the tip broken off. Another fifteen minutes with his whetstone, and the knife was like new, just a little shorter than new.

  • (Score: 2) by Chocolate on Monday January 20 2020, @10:50PM

    by Chocolate (8044) on Monday January 20 2020, @10:50PM (#946046) Journal

    Could you have tried sharpening the end to a point?

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