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posted by martyb on Sunday January 19 2020, @07:34PM   Printer-friendly
from the pointed-comments dept.

Sheffield-based company Viners has produced the "Assure" range, square-ended knives which are "shaped to reduce and prevent injuries, accidents and fatalities." With knife crimes in England and Wales at their highest in a decade, a 3% increase on last year and the highest level since 2009, this new knife is intended to not be used in crimes and only in the kitchen. While anti-stabbing messages have been left on fastfood containers and a crackdown on knife crime has been tried, for which included limiting the sale of knives, so far nothing has blunted the knife based problem.

When have social problems been solved by technical solutions?


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by edIII on Monday January 20 2020, @12:12AM (4 children)

    by edIII (791) on Monday January 20 2020, @12:12AM (#945564)

    Cooking is a diverse enough universe that you need all kinds of utensils, not just different kinds of knives. Some of it's cultural too. An Ulu is traditionally used for just about anything (I use one a lot for vegetables), and the tips can be used somewhat like a tipped knife.

    Even if I were willing to use only "safety" knives like this, and it worked for me personally, there are too many other use cases suited only to pointed tips. Try deboning a duck without a pointed knife, or do any kind of food art. I don't think it's possible to claim that you could rid the culinary world of pointed tips.

    Moreover, it seems rather ludicrous to make knives "safe", when there are countless of instruments of death. Pick axes, machetes, a nice sharp shovel, screwdrivers, scissors, box cutters, etc. Any farm or repair shop is going to have something that could be used to kill.

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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday January 20 2020, @12:28AM (3 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 20 2020, @12:28AM (#945571) Journal

    Even if I were willing to use only "safety" knives like this,

    Never said that you should.
    I'm only objecting to the idea that "knives without a point are useless" when, demonstrable, they are not.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by edIII on Monday January 20 2020, @01:07AM (2 children)

      by edIII (791) on Monday January 20 2020, @01:07AM (#945584)

      Ahhh, misunderstood your point then.

      Well then look no further than the Ulu as an example for that argument. Impossible to call that knife useless. If I had to choose one knife for my kitchen, it would be a high quality crescent shaped Ulu. My favorite thing is, with the proper shape, you can rock them back and forth (one-handed unless insane), and it acts as a Cuisinart in a small in a concave surface. I can go from full onion to minced in less than 60 seconds.

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      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday January 20 2020, @01:19AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 20 2020, @01:19AM (#945589) Journal

        you can rock them back and forth ... in a small in a concave surface

        Now, that's interesting. So self-evident once one point it to you.
        I always found that knife useless, it tends to push away the stuff I'm trying to chop and I end in spending more time bringing the stuff back into place or chasing it around the board.
        I see a new project for me in the near future - make a concave shallow chopping board and try the difference. Trying which depth gives better results sounds like "science at home" too.

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      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday January 20 2020, @01:38PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 20 2020, @01:38PM (#945797) Journal

        So, kinda like a French knife, but you put it into a concave recess? That does sound interesting. I've never seen the knife you describe - lemme find an image . . .

        https://www.amazon.com/Ulu-Factory-Birch-Handle-Cutlery/dp/B002KPJ2ES [amazon.com]

        https://www.amazon.com/Cherry-Wood-Chopping-Bowl-Set/dp/B008FDHRFA [amazon.com]

        https://www.etsy.com/market/alaskan_ulu_knife [etsy.com]

        That etsy link has several pretty knives, and even a double bladed ulu. Odd, I've never seen one. I do like my French knife, but this looks even more Frencher than a French.