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posted by martyb on Sunday January 19 2020, @07:34PM   Printer-friendly
from the pointed-comments dept.

Sheffield-based company Viners has produced the "Assure" range, square-ended knives which are "shaped to reduce and prevent injuries, accidents and fatalities." With knife crimes in England and Wales at their highest in a decade, a 3% increase on last year and the highest level since 2009, this new knife is intended to not be used in crimes and only in the kitchen. While anti-stabbing messages have been left on fastfood containers and a crackdown on knife crime has been tried, for which included limiting the sale of knives, so far nothing has blunted the knife based problem.

When have social problems been solved by technical solutions?


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday January 20 2020, @12:21AM (18 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday January 20 2020, @12:21AM (#945570) Journal

    It seems no one on either side of the pond wants to solve the underlying issues: poverty, violence, and economic stressors. Happy people don't, as a rule, perforate one another, whether at close range or far-off.

    I see two schools of "thought;" the do-nothing/make-it-worse crowd exemplified by, for the most pertinent case, the GOP in the US, and the "do something, as long as it makes us look good" side, which is, well...this. And other knee-jerk "ban ALL of X Y and Z!" bans, especially those that apply to melee weapons.

    The real problems are systemic and cultural, and no politician seems to want to take them on because the solutions 1) will take decades, 2) aren't popular with the rich elite who are the real ruling class, and 3) as a result of the first two don't help re-election chances. So unfortunately, these societies are doomed to perish in madness and internal warfare, with only a faint hope of better-minded people rebuilding something from the ashes.

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @01:25AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @01:25AM (#945591)

    "solve the underlying issues: poverty, violence, and economic stressors"

    Communism is supposed to eliminate poverty and economic stressors, how is that working out? How do you eliminate the underlying issue of violence? Violence is just human nature, for some people more than others. Other than locking people up at the first sign of trouble ( and preventing them from breeding as a huge side effect ) how are you going to deal with those people? Giving them pot and singing Kumbaya every day in schools is not going to work.

    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday January 20 2020, @02:27AM (5 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday January 20 2020, @02:27AM (#945609) Journal

      One of these days you're going to break your legs, jumping to conclusions like that. And isn't it incredibly hard to see when your vision is only 1-bit monochromatic, pure black and white?

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @07:07AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @07:07AM (#945702)

        Or, we could just break his legs for him, being the naturally violent fellow citizens he believes we are. Can we? Twice on the right leg?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @04:42PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @04:42PM (#945878)

        Do you think that equality for all will eliminate violence?

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 21 2020, @12:10AM (2 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday January 21 2020, @12:10AM (#946084) Journal

          Nope. Humans seem to have about a 1-in-80 rate of sociopathy at least among males, and humans as a whole seem to be competitive by nature. But it would go a long way to 1) eliminating many forms of and reasons for violence and 2) making it less likely for situation to arise in which people feel a need to *be* violent.

          Don't fall for the Nirvana Fallacy ("Never mind," i.e., making the perfect the enemy of the good).

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @03:00AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @03:00AM (#946134)

            Humans seem to have about a 1-in-80 rate of sociopathy at least among males

            No. Psychopathy is 1%, Sociopathy (ASPD) 3% and NPD 1% with some overlap. That is not 1-in-80 for individuals we would generically call "sociopathic" so where are you getting that figure from?

            In Iran it is illegal to be homosexual so they have the highest rates of transgenderism in the world. The rates of NPD in the LGBT community are... ouch! [nih.gov] So there's over half the LGBT community with an abusive personality disorder. I attempted to discuss this with you before, now I'll just say be careful where you point your finger - and take care of yourself.

            • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 21 2020, @03:31AM

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday January 21 2020, @03:31AM (#946148) Journal

              Yikes, so sociopaths are even more common than I thought? That explains a hell of a lot.

              Where were you going with that last paragraph though? That seems like some kind of underhanded sneak attack following some complete non-sequitur. If you have something to say to me, say it outright. And, as you've said, careful where that finger points...

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @03:40AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @03:40AM (#945644)

    Just kill the bastards in the street when they commit violent crime.
    Problem will be vastly reduced. There is no other solution. Well, maybe locking them up is 2nd best. Even better than killing them is not to bring likely troublemakers into your country in the first place.

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @07:37AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @07:37AM (#945710)

      And that psychopathic solution will totally not cause worse problems!

      What should we do with all the traitors who never actually realized they lost the US Civil Wsr? You probably don't wanna go down that road, stats haven't really gone in your favor since then.

      Oh! Haha, how'd I miss the obvious answer? Don't like black crime? Maybe you shouldn't have enslaved, brutalized, and tore down all their achievements to create a culture of desparate poverty and hopelessness. But woops, I'm probably talking to a neo-nazi cunt who dreams of having a reason to murder some darkies *puke*

      Ya, you really don't want to go down the old school method of solving our problems.

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday January 20 2020, @02:27PM (3 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 20 2020, @02:27PM (#945824) Journal

        tore down all their achievements

        Can you enumerate those achievments? I'm fairly sure that most of them were torn down by other Africans, or by the jungles they live in. Earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, and other natural disasters did far more to destroy African civilizations than any white people. And, oh yeah - Arabic and Persian invasions and slavery took their toll.

        You give too much credit to the Euros when you claim that they tore down much of anything in Africa.

        • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @08:08PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @08:08PM (#945938)

          Nice racism you got there you ignorant lout.

          Google for "black wallstreet" and you'll go down a rabbit hole of racist oppression you never thought possible. There is so FUCKING MUCH of it in the US that old twits like you would rather pretend never happened. And of course being the TOTALLY NOT RACIST MY BROWN COWORKERS LAUGH AT MUH JOKES Runaway dipshit you then spin the "black on black" crime narrative.

          While you're searching the web why not look up "context" to try and understand the crimes in poverty stricken areas?

          Who am I kidding, Runaway educate himself? That would get in the way of his world view!!

          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday January 20 2020, @08:48PM (1 child)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 20 2020, @08:48PM (#945958) Journal

            While you're attempting to "educate" me, you can look up the Tulsa riots. All of that evil can be dumped on whitey - but it has little to do with Africa. So, can you enumerate all those achievements you mentioned in Africa, or not?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @08:20PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @08:20PM (#946520)

              Well since I was talking about achievements in the US like Black Wallstreet and simple individual success for families you're as usual off base. My Africa history knowledge is not great, but I'm betting the slave trade derailed a lot of their societal development for quite a while. Turning tribes against each other as slave trading mercenaries wouldn't be good for any society.

              But you want to put them in a bubble and blame their DNA for every bad thing that happened. Such blatant racist ignorance that ignores the history of "white" people. I know, you can use your racism against the dark skinned peoe and we'll use Hitler against you. Why you gotta be literally Hitler bro? Genocide is bad mmmkay?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @01:15PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @01:15PM (#945785)

    The problem must be racism and if you think it's anything other than racism, you must be a white supremacist [unherd.com]

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @08:11PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 20 2020, @08:11PM (#945940)

      The problem is stupidity, sadly it often manifests itself as racist dickheads. You should get educated properly, get some historical context. Maybe you will even be able to get a date when you stop being an alt-right dumbass.

    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 21 2020, @12:15AM (2 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday January 21 2020, @12:15AM (#946086) Journal

      Racism is one expression of the problem. The problem is something deeper and more primitive than that: simplistic tribalism, a hyperactive, cancerous ingroup/outgroup mentality. That is, to say the least, maladaptive in a globally-connected world.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @03:04AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @03:04AM (#946137)

        That is, to say the least, maladaptive in a globally-connected world.

        Not maladaptive; homo. [dictionary.com] Like attracts huh?

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 21 2020, @03:32AM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday January 21 2020, @03:32AM (#946149) Journal

          Am I bothering you by existing or something? Or by having better experiences with women than you?

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