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http://www.ajudaily.com/view/20200207175148638
Video discussed in the story is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oglnV2P_QBI (in Korean).
A special TV documentary that depicted the tearful reunion of a sorrow-stricken mother and her daughter, who died of a rare incurable disease at the age of seven, in the virtual world has touched the hearts of many viewers in South Korea.
"Maybe it's a real paradise," Jang Ji-sung, the mother of four children, said of the moment she met her deceased daughter, Nayeon. "I met Nayeon, who called me with a smile, for a very short time, but it's a very happy time. I think I've had the dream I've always wanted."
The MBC documentary titled "I Met You" aired on February 6. For eight months, the production team has used VR technology to implement Nayeon's face, body, and voice. The reunion took place in a park with memories of Jang and her daughter. The motion of a child model was recorded as motion capture and implemented on the monitor to reproduce the scene at a VR studio.
Nayeon, the third of Jang's children, passed away in 2016. The mother engraved Nayeon's name and birthday on her body to remember her daughter forever. Wearing a necklace with Nayeon's bone powder, she visits a charnel house once a month.
As a white butterfly flew and sat in one place, the sound of Nayeon's song was heard. Jang burst into tears when her daughter ran with the cry of "Mom" and said, "Where have you been, Mom? Did you think about me?"
Jang responded with a doleful voice, "I do all the time." As her daughter said, "I missed mom a lot," Jang replied, "I missed you, too." The mother was cautious to reach out to touch her daughter before Nayeon insisted, "mom, please hold my hand." Jang finally held her daughter's hand in her's with tears streaming down her face. Nayeon's father, brother and sister watched the encounter they've dreamed of at the side of the virtual stage, also crying.
Submitting without comment - I'll leave my comments in the comments -- FP
(Score: 5, Informative) by barbara hudson on Thursday February 13 2020, @02:06AM (18 children)
Part of dealing with the death of someone (I'm not going to minimalist it by saying "loss" - they're dead, not lost) is recognition of the death. How can you do that by playing with a VR fake of the dead person? How are you gonna let go of what's permanently gone? If it's not like they're really gone - why not take them to a taxidermist and have them mounted on the wall?
Dealing with death is part of life. It's part of growing up. It's also how you develop the ability to help others in the same situation by knowing you've been there.
This is taking another step beck from being human.
SoylentNews is social media. Says so right in the slogan. Soylentnews is people, not tech.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 13 2020, @02:12AM
https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/futurist-ray-kurzweil-bring-dead-father-back-life/story?id=14267712 [go.com]
(Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 13 2020, @02:19AM
Funny you should mention that... I was planning to have Martyb stuffed and mounted on a wall if things hadn't turned out well.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by krishnoid on Thursday February 13 2020, @02:30AM (5 children)
Closure?
(Score: 4, Touché) by c0lo on Thursday February 13 2020, @02:58AM
(oh, God, some people just can't think outside functional programming)
(large grin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 3, Interesting) by barbara hudson on Thursday February 13 2020, @03:45AM (3 children)
Close Ute is 80s-style psychobabble. It's like saying that if you can help send the person who sexually assaulted you to jail you'll have closure. The moment you put you emotional state dependent on outcomes you can't control, you're fucké. Because in most cases the perp walks, and if you've primed yourself to believe that sending them to jail will give you closure, you now are royally screwed.
All the others who push closure as some sort of panacea because they don't know what else to say or do.
Real "closure " comes when you are no longer affected, when you don't give two shits what happened to the perp so long as you never see them again. And if you do see them by chance, you think "what a loser" and resume whatever it was you were doing, probably thinking "that was weird " because you didn't react negatively.
SoylentNews is social media. Says so right in the slogan. Soylentnews is people, not tech.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Thursday February 13 2020, @02:20PM (2 children)
So much of life is like this... better (for you) when you don't care.
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2) by acid andy on Thursday February 13 2020, @04:23PM (1 child)
And that, in a nutshell is why humanity, and maybe much of the rest of the planet, is doomed.
If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Thursday February 13 2020, @10:41PM
They're certainly getting my vote [soylentnews.org].
(Score: 3, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Thursday February 13 2020, @03:24AM
Not so long ago "real humans" could read a book and imagine / visualize the world described by the author. Remember their absent loved ones without 3D animated sensory prompting. Focus on a thought for longer than a few...
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 3, Insightful) by FatPhil on Thursday February 13 2020, @08:42AM (8 children)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Thursday February 13 2020, @01:29PM (7 children)
On the other hand, if every time I lost something were as bad as the death of a close person, I'd probably be a complete wreck by now.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Saturday February 15 2020, @09:17AM (6 children)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 1, Troll) by maxwell demon on Sunday February 16 2020, @07:18AM (5 children)
Do you genuinely not think that the impact of the death of a person is related to how much you care for that person?
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Sunday February 16 2020, @11:15AM (4 children)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Monday February 17 2020, @06:10AM (3 children)
Notice the context of my post. My post is exactly as much straw man as yours that I replied to.
But if you insist on misreading my post, well, there's not much that I can do against that. I guess the Troll mod is yours.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday February 17 2020, @07:25AM (2 children)
>>>> On the other hand, if every time I lost something were as bad as the death of a close person, I'd probably be a complete wreck by now.
can be interpreted except to imply that all losses are equal to that of bereevment, and therefore all the equal to each other in badness.
There is no way my response can can be considered as challenging your statement that all losses are the same.
Not a straw man. I was *directly* addressing *exactly* the point you were making.
I notice that you now seem to be admitting that your post was indeed a straw man, as you incorrectly condidered mine to be a straw man and equated the two. So at least you've already admitted that I'm right about one of the three posts I've made in this sub-thread (and as of typing only seen two of them). Given that I've been entirely consistent, some progress in the right direction is being made.
What have you done with the real maxwell's demon, he's normally a smart poster - you're being dumb. Of course the troll mod was mine, you said something buttfuck stupid that I was morally obligated to respond to. Your other posts deserve them too, to be honest.
Maybe you were trying to make a joke and using irony. Sorry, it wasn't funny. Hone your joking skills if that was the case. However, also in that case, don't respond so stupidly to the person who tries to explain why the premise for your joke was wrong. Unless you were trying to be funny. In which case *please work on your joking skills* - you simply aren't good at this irony lark.
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Monday February 17 2020, @09:42AM (1 child)
Except that I nowhere claimed that all losses are the same.
But you already have proved that you are not able to consider context, so I'm no longer surprised that you don't get that either.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday February 17 2020, @09:49AM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves