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posted by janrinok on Sunday February 16 2020, @04:58AM   Printer-friendly
from the oh-what-a-tangled-web dept.

According to Bloomberg:

Boeing Co. told U.S regulators on Friday that it didn't see the need to undertake a potentially costly fix for a wiring issue on the company's grounded 737 Max, according to two people familiar with the briefing.

The planemaker found in an audit last year of the 737 Max that wires were bundled improperly in a way that could trigger a failure similar to what happened in two crashes of the plane in which a total of 346 people died.

U.S. law requires wiring that could cause a hazardous condition in a failure to be separated from other wires. [...]

The wiring issues have been found in more than a dozen locations on the 737 Max.

From The Seattle Times [May require that Ad-Blockers be switched off, or at least disable style sheets]:

During the original design and certification of Boeing's 737 MAX, company engineers didn't notice that the electrical wiring doesn't meet federal aviation regulations for safe wire separation. And the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) failed to detect Boeing's miss.

The wiring vulnerability creates the theoretical potential for an electrical short to move the jet's horizontal tail uncommanded by the pilot, which could be catastrophic. If that were to happen, it could lead to a flight control emergency similar to the one that brought down two MAX jets, causing 346 deaths and the grounding of the aircraft.

Because this danger is extremely remote, the FAA faces a dilemma over what to do about it. The issue has complicated the return of the MAX to service after a grounding that is edging close to one year. [...]

"There are 205 million flight hours in the 737 fleet with this wiring type," a Boeing official said. "There have been 16 failures in service, none of which were applicable to this scenario. We've had no hot shorts."

In addition, Boeing says pulling out and rerouting wires on the almost 800 MAXs already built would pose a potentially higher risk of causing an electrical short, because insulation could chafe or crack in the process of moving the wires.

However, an FAA safety engineer familiar with the issue, who asked not to be identified because he spoke without agency permission, said agency technical staff have been clear that the wiring doesn't comply with regulations and have told their Boeing counterparts it has to be fixed.


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by fustakrakich on Sunday February 16 2020, @05:43AM (6 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday February 16 2020, @05:43AM (#958711) Journal

    To this day they still resist all needed corrective measures.

    I sure hope their military stuff isn't as bad. If China finds out, we're cooked!

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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday February 16 2020, @05:52AM (2 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday February 16 2020, @05:52AM (#958714) Journal

    If China finds out, we're cooked!

    Yes, you are, already.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by zocalo on Sunday February 16 2020, @12:39PM

    by zocalo (302) on Sunday February 16 2020, @12:39PM (#958770)
    So much this. All you need to know about the current attitude in Boeing's senior management is summed up in just two lines of TFS:

    "Boeing Co. told U.S regulators on Friday that it didn't see the need to undertake a potentially costly fix for a wiring issue on the company's grounded 737 Max"

    "U.S. law requires wiring that could cause a hazardous condition in a failure to be separated from other wires."

    So, Boeing's senior management doesn't "see the need" to comply with US law on a life-safety issue? Seriously, jailtime is too good for them. Of course, it would be naive to assume that this attitude only applies to the Max, or only to Boeing for that matter. This is what happens when a regulator allows those under its jurisdiction to self regulate without sufficient checks and balances in place, and I doubt very much that in the current climate of austerity and cost-cutting decisions that lead to this kind of approach are limited to just the FAA, or just the US's regulatory bodies for that matter.

    As for Boeing's military stuff, you do recall they tried the same approach (not worth the cost of a do-over) with the aborted Starliner docking with the ISS only a couple of months ago, right? Seems pretty likely to me that the mindset applies company-wide and not just to their civilian airliner division.

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  • (Score: 2) by edIII on Monday February 17 2020, @01:20AM (1 child)

    by edIII (791) on Monday February 17 2020, @01:20AM (#958959)

    Ummm, China might have almost all of our top secret data and designs.

    Remember the RSA hack? Hackers exfiltrated very sensitive technical data regarding the implementation of RSA's highest security level products. Same ones used across the entire military industrial complex. After an extremely fast turn-around (well less than a month, it was weeks), the technical data was used to find a flaw. Extremely similar to how the Bothans sacrificed themselves to reveal the critical weakness in the Death Star.

    In the months that followed, whatever nation state pulled this off, hopped from secure network to secure network within the military industrial complex, and indeed, higher level security networks within the Pentagon. God knows where else they were able to get to, but anywhere where RSA's products were considered front-line of defense were stripped naked of security.

    So it's extremely likely that China drained all of our top level military IP. Don't be too surprised when China starts unveiling highly advanced military hardware.

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