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KTLA reports via CNN Wire:
A man, who asked that his identity not be revealed, lives near the site of the shooting and was close enough to have heard the gunshots, his attorney said. He was speaking to a friend on a video chat service and happened to be recording the conversation at the same time Brown was shot.
In the recording, a quick series of shots can be heard, followed by a pause and then another quick succession of shots. Forensic audio expert Paul Ginsberg analyzed the recording and said he detected at least 10 gunshots -- a cluster of six, followed by four.
"I was very concerned about that pause ... because it's not just the number of gunshots, it's how they're fired," said the man's attorney. "And that has a huge relevance on how this case might finally end up."
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Tork on Thursday August 28 2014, @05:11AM
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 28 2014, @05:33AM
> I'd like to hear a good reason of how that long of a pause somehow exonerates that officer.
The first volley was as Brown was leaving, having just assaulted the officer in his car.
Brown turned around, the cop paused, Brown charged, the cop fired the second volley.
Don't bother arguing with the interpretation, you asked for an example of how someone can fit it to their preferred narrative. That is one such example.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 28 2014, @05:36AM
So you are saying shooting a man 6 times in a retaliation as they run away, then shoot them four more times when they turn to defend themselves is a worthwhile defense?
(Score: 3, Interesting) by RaffArundel on Thursday August 28 2014, @12:46PM
Seeing as though Brown was shot at least 6 times (maybe 8) according to Baden, all apparently from the front, here are a few possibilities assuming the recording isn't a fraud:
1. Brown was hit all six times in the first volley. This is unlikely, since it means the four additional shots would have been pointless (unless it was a Point Break/Hot Fuzz thing)
2. Brown was hit by bullets from both volleys. More likely, and since there was no entry wounds on the back side there neither volley was "as they run away".
3. The shots were miscounted or misrecorded on the audio. I have no idea what weapon the officer used, but Glocks are a popular choice and 15 round magazines are common. This puts us at 5 more shots that could have taken place. So it is possible that none of the original volley landed, at least two shots in the second volley were unidentified, and it was the "charging at the officer" second volley that killed him.
The point is (as others have said and your AC post demonstrated) despite a lawyer saying it was troubling, it doesn't change anyone's personal narrative. Some are going to believe the officer was in imminent danger and defended himself others will believe he gunned down a kid because he wanted to. I choose to wait to see where the story goes.
(Score: 1) by tftp on Thursday August 28 2014, @04:41PM
So it is possible that none of the original volley landed, at least two shots in the second volley were unidentified, and it was the "charging at the officer" second volley that killed him.
There was talk about fight for the LEO's gun. If that fight took place, then those shots could be fired by either party, involuntarily, during the fight. Another rumor says that Mr. Brown had an injury on his hand from a slide of the gun. If true, that would confirm that theory.
All in all, indeed, it is likely that the first shots hit nobody, as they were not aimed at anyone. The second group of shots hit Mr. Brown as he was facing the LEO.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 29 2014, @10:39AM
well no, because we know from the autopsy that the shots where fired from far enough away that there was no powder residue to be found on Brown, in other words: no shots where fired from melee-distance
ergo no shots where fired during a fight about control of the gun
(Score: 2) by Tork on Thursday August 28 2014, @05:38AM
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(Score: 2) by sjames on Thursday August 28 2014, @09:09AM
I'm not so sure using deadly force on an unarmed person who is running away is a very good defense.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 28 2014, @11:27AM
Well, according to the officer's girlfriend's friend, the officer initially discharged his weapon while Mr Brown was reaching through the window assaulting the officer, so the first six shots ~could~ have been fired then, causing Mr Brown to back away from the window. This would allow the officer time to exit the vehicle, during which time Mr Brown may have decided, with at least two bullets in him already, kind of like an enraged bear, to turn and charge the officer, inciting the next volley.
The fundamental problem in all this continues to be that there are three community witnesses who claim that struggle at the window looked like Mr Brown trying to get away, and only the friend-of-a-friend version of the police story. That there has been no "official" version of the officer's side, in the context of all the other official delays and denials, just gives the appearance of taking their time to fabricate a version of events that fits the evidence and still paints the officer in a good light. I understand that officer Wilson may not be allowed to speak directly to the media, but nothing prevents his commanding officer from summarizing the officer's incident report. The community witnesses may be biased to expect civilians to be defensive in police confrontations. The FOAF version is wholly unsatisfying.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Friday August 29 2014, @12:35PM
Alas, the police claim there is no incident report. Not exactly helpful to their position.
Add it all together plus the attempted character assassination of Brown (through the carefully selected clip of the convenience store footage), tear gassing journalists who are on the sidelines, and well, nearly everything else they've done since and it's practically impossible to believe the police version of anything anymore.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 28 2014, @06:29PM
Except none of that happened. Now, try it with the facts.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 28 2014, @04:12PM
It doesn't. It does, on the other hand, demonstrate that the officer may have had sufficient time to contemplate his actions before he fired off the second volley killing Michael Brown. That could open up the door sufficiently to accusations of premeditation, depending upon the circumstances.