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posted by janrinok on Sunday March 01 2020, @03:29AM   Printer-friendly
from the sick-and-tired-of-being-sick-and-tired dept.

Many nations have begun to take special measures to address the problem of the spread of the COVID-19 virus over every continent. It would be pointless to report the details of all such measures; they are limited to each specific country and liable to frequent change as the situation develops. The USA FDA (Food and Drug Administration) have carried out what they describe as a "Supply Change Update", see the link below, but for others we suggest using a bit of web-search-fu to discover a site more appropriate to your own area of interest.

Worldwide, newspapers and other media need to maintain sales and subscriptions — many tend, therefore, to sensationalize their reporting. This has two undesirable effects: firstly it can result in data being quoted out of context to support the report they are making and, secondly, it tends to stress the possible effects of the COVID pandemic, should it be declared as such. In a comment elsewhere, I reported 2 tables which contain the most accurate figures we can find from a reputable source. They indicate the vulnerability of people to the virus by age, and any links to comorbidity (as far as they are known). There is no doubt that the virus poses a serious threat but it is not the same for all ages and many deaths are attributed to a combination of COVID-19 infection and other pre-existing conditions. For the latter it has not be proven that the virus was the sole cause of death; it is possible that the person would have died anyway. As postmortems have not been carried out in the vast majority of cases, the figures are open to misinterpretation. The WHO (World Health Organization) stresses that they will be unable to clarify these findings for a long time to come.

As it stands, for a person below the age of 70 with no other medical conditions, the chances of dying from a COVID-19 infection is less than 1%. That is still a large number of people at risk and the implications for every nation are significant. It is, however, much lower than some of the figures that have been quoted in the press. The figures for people over 70 and with other conditions cause the rate to rise quite sharply, and I would suggest that we all keep an watchful eye on the elderly or infirm members of our family and friends.

The majority of people will only suffer mild flu-like symptoms and will make a full recovery. - janrinok

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Supply Chain Update

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Supply Chain Update:

As I have previously communicated, the FDA has been closely monitoring the supply chain with the expectation that the COVID-19 outbreak would likely impact the medical product supply chain, including potential disruptions to supply or shortages of critical medical products in the U.S.

A manufacturer has alerted us to a shortage of a human drug that was recently added to the drug shortages list. The manufacturer just notified us that this shortage is related to a site affected by coronavirus. The shortage is due to an issue with manufacturing of an active pharmaceutical ingredient used in the drug. It is important to note that there are other alternatives that can be used by patients. We are working with the manufacturer as well as other manufacturers to mitigate the shortage. We will do everything possible to mitigate the shortage.

Additional Information on Human Drugs

Since January 24, the FDA has been in touch with more than 180 manufacturers of human drugs, not only to remind them of applicable legal requirements for notifying the FDA of any anticipated supply disruptions, but also asking them to evaluate their entire supply chain, including active pharmaceutical ingredients (the main ingredient in the drug and part that produces the intended effects, e.g., acetaminophen) and other components manufactured in China.

Also, as part of our efforts, the FDA has identified about 20 other drugs, which solely source their active pharmaceutical ingredients or finished drug products from China. We have been in contact with those firms to assess whether they face any drug shortage risks due to the outbreak. None of these firms have reported any shortage to date. Also, these drugs are considered non-critical drugs.

We will remain in contact with manufacturers so that we can continue to assist them with any potential issues in the fastest way.

The report continues for several pages and covers a variety of issues relevant to the USA.

Coronavirus lessons from the 1918-1919 Spanish flu

As the threat of additional community spreading of the coronavirus in the US grows, at least some people are recommending large-scale quarantines in American cities. There is precedent for this with the 1918-1919 Spanish flu and evidence that it was effective at curbing fatalities. Cities like St. Louis, Kansas City, Milwaukee, and San Francisco implemented strict quarantines early during the spread of infections and experienced lower fatality rates than cities that waited to impose quarantines. The quarantine in St. Louis was particularly notable because it was one of the top ten largest cities in the US at that time. On October 5, 1918, St. Louis ordered a wide range of measures being proposed currently for mitigating the coronavirus such as closing schools and other public places and many businesses.

Coronavirus Outbreak: All the Latest Updates

Coronavirus outbreak: All the latest updates:

Hopes that the coronavirus would be contained to China have vanished as the first case in sub-Saharan Africa was announced in Nigeria, while number of infections continue to grow in Europe pounding stock markets amid fears of a global recession.

On Friday, the US State Department raised its alert level for Italy, warning Americans to reconsider travel due to the outbreak. "Many cases of COVID-19 have been associated with travel to or from mainland China or close contact with a travel-related case, but sustained community spread has been reported in Italy," the department added. Italy has reported 650 coronavirus cases and 17 deaths - the most in Europe from the epidemic that originated in China, which is by far the most affected country.

The US on Friday warned against non-essential travel to Italy, a top destination for US tourists, over the growing coronavirus epidemic. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention "recommends that travellers avoid all nonessential travel to Italy. There is limited access to adequate medical care in affected areas," it said in a statement.

In China - the epicentre of the deadly disease - the National Health Commission reported on Saturday at least 47 new coronavirus deaths, bringing to 2,835 the number of fatalities nationwide. >There were also 427 new infections, up from 327 the previous day, pushing the confirmed cases in mainland China so far to 79,251, and more than 83,000 worldwide. Of the total number of deaths, at least 45 were from Hubei, the epicentre of the outbreak. Of the 45 deaths in Hubei, 37 were from the city of Wuhan.

The US state of California has confirmed a second case of coronavirus. "Now we have a case who did not recently travel or come in contact with anyone known to be ill," Sara Cody, the director of public health for Santa Clara County, near San Francisco, told reporters. She said the second patient is an adult woman who is being treated at a hospital.

Two South Africans on board the quarantined Diamond Princess cruise ship have tested positive for the coronavirus, according to a state-run medical institute. "We confirm that these citizens are currently being treated in Japan and are in good care," said a statement by the National Institute for Communicable Diseases.

Three Confirmed Cases of Corona Virus in Washington State

Washington State Department of Health reports there are now three confirmed cases of Coronavirus inside the state: https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/Coronavirus with 1 case in King County and 2 cases in Snohomish County. Seattle is inside King County and Snohomish is just north of King.

ABC reports that the infections are of unknown origin and that more potential cases exist in the bordering state of Oregon.

A second case of COVID-19 with an unknown origin was identified in Santa Clara county, California on Friday, and two other potential cases of unknown origin were identified in Oregon and Washington state.

NPR calls Seattle the first confirmed case of Corona virus in the US:

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the CDC, has reported the first case in the United States of a new and deadly coronavirus. A resident of Washington state in the Seattle area is infected. The man had traveled to central China to the city of Wuhan, where the virus was first discovered. It has killed at least 17 people, and scientists now say humans can transmit the virus to one another. And as Will Stone from member station KNKX in Seattle reports, officials in Washington state are trying to prevent the spread of the virus, and also projecting calm.

My own analysis indicates that the symptom profile has changed as well from flu like symptoms to mild flu like symptoms or mild cold like symptoms and more specifically that fever is not mandatory any longer but I am not able to find sources reliable enough to include in a submission.

Three More People Test Positive in England

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51684624

Three more people from England have tested positive for coronavirus, taking the total number of UK cases to 23.

Two of the patients had recently returned from Italy, while the other had come back from Asia, chief medical officer Prof Chris Whitty said.

The cases are from Gloucestershire, Hertfordshire and Berkshire.

It comes as health officials try to discover how a man from Surrey caught the virus, after he became the first person to be infected within the UK.

The man, who is being treated at Guy's and St Thomas' Hospital in central London, had not been abroad recently - unlike the other cases in the UK.

[...] Ten more cases of the virus in the UK in just over two days might raise eyebrows, but health officials say all but one can be easily explained because the patients have travelled from the most affected countries, including Northern Italy and Iran.

Since the first UK cases were confirmed in York - two Chinese nationals - positive tests have been recorded in the south of England, Derbyshire, south Wales and Northern Ireland.

Government's Mixed Messages On Coronavirus Are Dangerous: Experts

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

“It’s really important for the U.S. government to be speaking with one common voice about these issues right now,” Tom Inglesby, an infectious diseases physician and director of the Center for Health Security of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, tells STAT

That’s not happening. On Tuesday (January 25), a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) official announced that COVID-19 could start spreading at the community level in the US shortly and that if the outbreak did hit the states, there could be “severe” disruptions to daily life. The next day, President Donald Trump held an evening press conference in which he said he didn’t think an outbreak in the US is inevitable. “I don’t think it’s inevitable because we’re doing a really good job in terms of maintaining borders and turning—in terms of letting people in, in terms of checking people,” he told reporters. He did not mention a new disease case reported the same day in California that couldn’t be accounted for by foreign travel or contact with someone known to be infected.

In the same press conference, Trump contradicted his own health officials. He predicted that there might be just one or two more people who report being infected in the next short period of time, yet, minutes later, Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Alex Azar and CDC Principal Deputy Director Anne Schuchat both said that they expected the number of infections to grow. There are currently 60 reported cases of COVID-19 in the US. 

Earlier in February, Trump also said the spread of the virus could dissipate by April when the weather warms. While some viruses, such as the flu, don’t spread as easily in higher temperatures, it is not clear SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes COVID-19, is one of them. Government officials saying that the coronavirus outbreak is just like the flu isn’t entirely accurate, notes Ronald Klain, who oversaw the Ebola response in President Barack Obama’s administration. He responded to comments Tuesday by Chad Wolf, acting secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, in testimony before Congress. “The responsible answer [to whether the outbreak is like the flu] is ‘we don’t know yet,’” Klain said.

“Americans need facts and science—not reassurance that all will be well. The presidential press conference on the coronavirus pandemic was, sadly, a disappointment,” Arthur Caplan, a bioethicist at NYU Langone Health, says in a statement emailed to The Scientist.

Disagreement between the State Department and CDC about the decision to fly home 14 Americans infected with SARS-CoV-2 also led to questions about who was leading the effort to contain the disease in the US. The CDC recommended that the patients not be flown home from Tokyo after leaving quarantine on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, but the State Department overruled the recommendation, according to The Washington Post. 

Government messaging may become more consistent, as President Trump announced Wednesday (January 26) that Vice President Mike Pence would be coordinating the response to the disease threat going forward. Now, government health officials and scientists are required to coordinate any statements and public appearances with Pence’s office, officials tell The New York Times reports. That includes Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. 


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by edIII on Sunday March 01 2020, @06:18AM (12 children)

    by edIII (791) on Sunday March 01 2020, @06:18AM (#964796)

    Please. It's more than a problem with who is going to cover it. Social services were never adequately funded in the first place, and it's arguable whether or not they were setup to fail.

    There are no systems in place big enough right now to handle what is going to happen. Not to mention, so many of the people that will be hit the hardest, don't have access to medical care anyways. When this happens, I don't think anybody is going to care about who has money. The hospital beds will be filled, various community shelters would need to be converted. People will do what that have to do, and if it doesn't, it will be mass panic, chaos, confusion, and more than likely war. No better time to try and start the race war, then when all social services, as well as city services start breaking down. Local governments will be desperate to enact whatever measures they can to take care of the infected, because to do otherwise, is actual insanity. Money is quite secondary. However, because money isn't secondary in healthcare in this country, you will have infected working their jobs in Amazon warehouses because they can't afford to not meet quota. We have the perfect breeding grounds for this virus, and the only way to fight it is containment and detection.

    None of that matters because we don't have testing kits. Not nearly enough for what we need, and not soon enough, because we needed it yesterday. We're going to need not only the testing kits, but the hospital beds, and the ventilators. Money cannot magically make that stuff appear in the numbers that we would need if a pandemic happens. Put quite simply, our medical coverage is wholly inadequate, because it really only covers the rich adequately. Even then, it's questionable as to whether or not we would've had that many hospital beds in a perfect ideal single payer world either. We're wholly unprepared for this, at every level. It's been a slow decline, and now we need to deal with the consequences of our massive inefficiencies.

    All of the above doesn't matter, because government has been systematically destroyed. Anyone who dares question the Emperor, is an evil Never-Trumper, and the entire agenda is to overturn the will of the voters in 2016. The Emperor says nothing is wrong, The Emperor says its a hoax, The Emperor says everything is going to be handled.

    This comes down to the "President", and the government he is running. The Left hand doesn't know what the fuck the Right hand is doing, and they don't agree for shit. Except it's not a fucking weather event this time, but scientists with the CDC giving us a reality check, while the Kool-Aid Brigade in Washington pulls a Leslie Nielson standing in front of the exploding fireworks factory... "Nothing to see here folks! Move Along! Everything is fine! Just a Lefist-Liberal whacked out hoax! Go about your business!". Good ol' Rush Limbaugh says it's no worse than the common cold people! The Trumper that told me that, followed it up with, "These people are full of shit. Nobody knows they're doing". That's a sign of the apocalypse if anything, a Trumper and a Never Trumper agreeing on something against the will of the Emperor.

    There's a whistleblower complaint being silenced right now, as political enemies of the "President", for reporting that the people going in to handle quarantine patients coming back into the US were not properly briefed, equipped, trained, and were a danger to themselves and others. Those in charge ignored them, and these workers were transferred back home on public air transportation, even though they had face to face contact with refugees from Diamond Prinncess. Trump puppet at the top tells Democrats in Congress that nothing is going on, even though he received the complaint. It's not politically convenient for this "President" to admit there is a problem, so there isn't a problem as far as government is concerned. They're not going to have a reality check and pivot back fast enough to prevent what's coming next.

    1. They don't know what they're doing
    2. They can't admit there is a problem
    3. They blame the problem on political enemies
    4. They paint all news regarding it as inaccurate hoaxes designed to interfere with the election
    5. They put a man in charge, that for his own beliefs and reasons, caused a pandemic in his own state, that is widely recognized as 90% preventable.
    6. They tell us a wall is good at keeping out viruses from our country
    7. They can't figure out how to transfer testing kits from Alabama to Nebraska, or to anywhere else in the country that needs it

    That's the short list. Buckle up people, because they're is nobody at the wheel to handle it, not enough gas to get us away. Stock Market is telling us the truth, because those analysts know what is coming down the supply chains in terms of disruption. China already gave a pretty bleak report.

    If you gotta a place to go in the middle of nowhere, this is probably the best time. I think this is a temporary island of stability, the calm before the storm. With the incubation rate, and new cases being "community", it's a matter of time before hospital beds get filled. That point, it's all about containment and detection. We're not setup for that.

    Get prepared, get supplies, and get ready to bunker down in place.

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Knowledge Troll on Sunday March 01 2020, @06:58AM (4 children)

    by Knowledge Troll (5948) on Sunday March 01 2020, @06:58AM (#964803) Homepage Journal

    Good ol' Rush Limbaugh says it's no worse than the common cold people! The Trumper that told me that, followed it up with, "These people are full of shit. Nobody knows they're doing". That's a sign of the apocalypse if anything, a Trumper and a Never Trumper agreeing on something against the will of the Emperor.

    I think this is a good thing at least if I read it right. It mirrors my experiences talking with people about this. Yesterday in a media format that is known to be overwhelmingly conservative I heard two people talking to each other and they started defending Trump in outlandish ways. I thought to myself "why the hell would anyone do that." To my great surprise many people jumped in and started holding Trump accountable. There was even some yield with the Trump supporters.

    I'm pretty sure most people know he is full of crap.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2020, @02:34PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2020, @02:34PM (#964893)

      clueless boomer here, what the heck do you mean by:
      > ...media format that is known to be overwhelmingly conservative...

      Would that be talk radio? If so, why not say so explicitly?

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2020, @06:56PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2020, @06:56PM (#965019)

        HAM radio

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2020, @05:15PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2020, @05:15PM (#964959)

      Our "very stable genius" couldn't even get the gender of the first fatality correct. As for Rush, remind me to send him a box of his favorite cigars.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2020, @09:41PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2020, @09:41PM (#965090)

      Rush Limbaugh will probably be dead by the end of the month. If he catches COVID-19 on top of his stage-4 lung cancer he's a goner.

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2020, @09:05AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2020, @09:05AM (#964840)

    That scientist has ulterior motives. Her brother is Rod Rosenstein, who undermined the Trump administration when he was the Deputy Attorney General.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/02/25/odd-coincidence-rogue-cdc-official-pushing-coronavirus-panic-button-is-rod-rosensteins-sister/ [theconservativetreehouse.com]

    I'm just not going to listen to Trump haters who are actively trying to make the virus into a political issue to attack Trump. They are the least trustworthy source of information.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by janrinok on Sunday March 01 2020, @01:57PM (2 children)

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 01 2020, @01:57PM (#964874) Journal

      You shouldn't take the word of Trump supporters either. Being a supporter or hater of Trump gives nobody any expertise in virus containment and protection.

      How about we listen to the scientific bodies that are responsible in their respective countries for providing expert advice?

      Keep politics out of this - we need people who are qualified in the subject no matter who they voted for.

      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2020, @06:48PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 01 2020, @06:48PM (#965015)

        What? Those experts who depend on government funding for their jobs? They have a vested interest in keeping everyone dependent on them and maintaining government power. This is all just a false flag Big Disease operation to spread the vaccinations which will sterilize 90% of the population, and these so-called experts are glad to go along to get more tax funded checks!!!

        For all you "rational" people out there I have just one thing for you - /crazy if that wasn't obvious by now

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 02 2020, @12:43AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 02 2020, @12:43AM (#965155)

          Alex Jones is that you?

  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday March 01 2020, @02:54PM

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Sunday March 01 2020, @02:54PM (#964900)

    There are no systems in place big enough right now to handle what is going to happen.

    !Remind me in 1 year

    Let's see how bad things actually get.

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  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday March 01 2020, @06:30PM (1 child)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday March 01 2020, @06:30PM (#964997) Journal

    There are no systems in place big enough right now to handle what is going to happen.

    That much paranoia out there, eh? From the moderation it got, I guess I never should have brought it up.

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    • (Score: 2) by edIII on Monday March 02 2020, @03:50AM

      by edIII (791) on Monday March 02 2020, @03:50AM (#965270)

      Wow. I've been called paranoid before. 20 years ago talking about surveillance and encryption. I'm used to it. The data wasn't there yet to back me up. Took a couple of forced disclosures by patriots.

      This time though, you don't have to be paranoid to believe the experts. It's not paranoia to read the numbers, understand how it propagates, factor in our workforce and health care systems, and see that it's highly likely this could result in a very large number of cases very quickly.

      Just how many hospital beds and ventilators do you think we have? That's just two pieces of equipment though, so how many rooms do you think we have that are fully equipped with everything needed to perform the quality of medical care required to achieve recovery outcomes reported by other countries? How many more could we create in 10 days?

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