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posted by martyb on Tuesday March 10 2020, @11:51PM   Printer-friendly
from the quite-the-coc-up dept.

Open Source Initiative bans co-founder, Eric S Raymond:

Last week, Eric S Raymond (often known as ESR, author of The Cathedral and the Bazaar, and co-founder of the Open Source Intiative) was banned from the Open Source Intiative[sic] (the "OSI").

Specifically, Raymond was banned from the mailing lists used to organize and communicate with the OSI.

For an organization to ban their founder from communicating with the group (such as via a mailing list) is a noteworthy move.

At a time when we have seen other founders (of multiple Free and Open Source related initiatives) pushed out of the organizations they founded (such as with Richard Stallman being compelled to resign from the Free Software Foundation, or the attempts to remove Linus Torvalds from the Linux Kernel – both of which happened within the last year) it seems worth taking a deeper look at what, specifically, is happening with the Open Source Initiative.

I don't wish to tell any of you what you should think about this significant move. As such I will simply provide as much of the relevant information as I can, show the timeline of events, and reach out to all involved parties for their points of view and comments.

The author provides links to — and quotations from — entries on the mailing list supporting this. There is also a conversation the author had with ESR. The full responses he received to his queries are posted, as well.


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  • (Score: 2) by crafoo on Wednesday March 11 2020, @12:11AM (10 children)

    by crafoo (6639) on Wednesday March 11 2020, @12:11AM (#969356)

    Nah, it's pretty much the same infiltrate - cop-opt - destroy process these postmodern psychopaths used everywhere else.

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  • (Score: 2, Troll) by barbara hudson on Wednesday March 11 2020, @12:16AM (8 children)

    by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Wednesday March 11 2020, @12:16AM (#969362) Journal
    What do you expect from a webmonkey? Something useful?
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 11 2020, @06:18AM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 11 2020, @06:18AM (#969521)

      Haha, Coraline-Ada is from the wrong kind of rainbow!

      You've been shoving the diversity phallus down our throats since how long but you're just another transphobic-Ruby hater.

      • (Score: 2, Troll) by barbara hudson on Wednesday March 11 2020, @08:24AM (6 children)

        by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Wednesday March 11 2020, @08:24AM (#969558) Journal
        Web "developers " are by definition the wrong kind of anything. Has nothing to do with anything except their propensity to fuck up everything they touch.
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        • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 11 2020, @02:42PM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 11 2020, @02:42PM (#969631)

          You are criticizing a transgender person, so your comments are automatically dismissed as transphobic.

          • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Wednesday March 11 2020, @04:15PM (3 children)

            by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Wednesday March 11 2020, @04:15PM (#969677) Journal

            You are criticizing a transgender person, so your comments are automatically dismissed as transphobic.

            You're also criticizing a transgender person, so your comments are automatically dismissed as transphobic.

            See how stupid that is? No group is above criticism. That you would attempt to attack me, even though I didn't make any reference to their being trans in my criticism, just being a comparatively useless web monkey, betrays your true motivation. The only trans-misogynist here is you. (well, not the only one - this site has lots of them, same as every other site on the internet).

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 12 2020, @08:10AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 12 2020, @08:10AM (#970148)

              Transgender, . . . catfight? These are times that truly try the souls of cis males! Especially those who don't want to just be dicks.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 13 2020, @01:14AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 13 2020, @01:14AM (#970493)

              >You're also criticizing a transgender person,
              I was not aware of this. Please forgive me.
              You are truly blessed to have an actual say in matters regarding Coraline Ada Ehmke. If I, or any other cisgendered individual, were to voice a negative opinion, it would be labelled as hate speech and discarded.

              • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Sunday March 15 2020, @03:55PM

                by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Sunday March 15 2020, @03:55PM (#971584) Journal

                I wouldn't discard it because you're cisgendered. That would be stupid, and if there's one thing I;m not, it's stupid. Stubborn, sure, but not stupid.

                Had an interesting discussion with a social worker this week, and one of the topics we talked about was the toxic lifestyle of many in the lbgt community. More violence, more drugs, more chemsex, more tobacco use, Even the people who live in the "gay village" here because "it's safer" complain about the violence.

                It's not safer. But saying this is "oh noes!" Same as pointing out that Pride is now useless, having become an occasion for politicians and corporations to gay-wash themselves being run by people just wanting to keep their jobs running the event.

                Would I ever go to the gay village? Hell, no! The prejudice and outright hatred of gays towards transwomen is well documented. Wanting to live as normal a life as possible is seen as being a "traitor to the cause." Even though the goal is to be treated the same as everyone else - ie: "normal".

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        • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Saturday March 14 2020, @09:58PM

          by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 14 2020, @09:58PM (#971336) Homepage Journal

          Ah! If they would only fsck up everything they touched instead!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 11 2020, @06:04PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 11 2020, @06:04PM (#969730)

    Nah, it's pretty much the same infiltrate - cop-opt - destroy process these postmodern psychopaths used everywhere else.

    Incitation of 'hate crimes' is their specialty. It's part of the Misandrist Movement.