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posted by martyb on Tuesday March 10 2020, @11:51PM   Printer-friendly
from the quite-the-coc-up dept.

Open Source Initiative bans co-founder, Eric S Raymond:

Last week, Eric S Raymond (often known as ESR, author of The Cathedral and the Bazaar, and co-founder of the Open Source Intiative) was banned from the Open Source Intiative[sic] (the "OSI").

Specifically, Raymond was banned from the mailing lists used to organize and communicate with the OSI.

For an organization to ban their founder from communicating with the group (such as via a mailing list) is a noteworthy move.

At a time when we have seen other founders (of multiple Free and Open Source related initiatives) pushed out of the organizations they founded (such as with Richard Stallman being compelled to resign from the Free Software Foundation, or the attempts to remove Linus Torvalds from the Linux Kernel – both of which happened within the last year) it seems worth taking a deeper look at what, specifically, is happening with the Open Source Initiative.

I don't wish to tell any of you what you should think about this significant move. As such I will simply provide as much of the relevant information as I can, show the timeline of events, and reach out to all involved parties for their points of view and comments.

The author provides links to — and quotations from — entries on the mailing list supporting this. There is also a conversation the author had with ESR. The full responses he received to his queries are posted, as well.


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  • (Score: 2, Offtopic) by barbara hudson on Wednesday March 11 2020, @02:03AM (2 children)

    by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Wednesday March 11 2020, @02:03AM (#969406) Journal
    You just described the DNC.
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  • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Thursday March 12 2020, @03:04AM

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Thursday March 12 2020, @03:04AM (#970056)

    Not exactly, I think. Basically, just like the GOP has a few different camps, the DNC also has different camps, with two main ones. One is the progressive wing, which is Bernie and his fans. The other is the neoliberal wing, which is Biden (and formerly Hillary, not sure if she's active in the party any more though since we never hear about her) and friends. The GOP has something similar: it has the Christian conservatives, the upper-middle-class people who want to pay less taxes, and the gun nuts. The big, big difference I see between the two parties, however, is that the different GOP camps will more reliably get out and vote for their candidates, even if they don't like them that much. Whereas on the Democrat side, people (especially younger and more progressive ones) will get pissed off and stay home when they really hate their candidate.

    If we adopted a better voting system, we wouldn't have just these two parties: they'd break up and we'd quickly have 3-10 different parties, like western European nations do.

    Anyway, the big reason this isn't like the DNC is because the OP was describing how these organizations end up collapsing or becoming completely irrelevant. This isn't happening with the DNC (or GOP). This kind of in-party turmoil really isn't new; they have lots of fights and change over time. Maybe you've forgotten, but back in '68 the Dems had a similar fight, with one popular guy getting the shaft by the party so they could push their unpopular candidate, and they both lost to Nixon. The DNC didn't die; they still had plenty of seats in Congress after that, and finally got a President elected (Carter), though it took a while. Of course, then we had 12 years of GOP presidents, but then we had 8 years of Clinton, and 8 years of Obama after W's two terms. Neither party is going away; Duverger's Law prevents it.

  • (Score: 2) by Lester on Thursday March 12 2020, @08:38AM

    by Lester (6231) on Thursday March 12 2020, @08:38AM (#970158) Journal

    What does DNC stand for?