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posted by martyb on Tuesday March 10 2020, @11:51PM   Printer-friendly
from the quite-the-coc-up dept.

Open Source Initiative bans co-founder, Eric S Raymond:

Last week, Eric S Raymond (often known as ESR, author of The Cathedral and the Bazaar, and co-founder of the Open Source Intiative) was banned from the Open Source Intiative[sic] (the "OSI").

Specifically, Raymond was banned from the mailing lists used to organize and communicate with the OSI.

For an organization to ban their founder from communicating with the group (such as via a mailing list) is a noteworthy move.

At a time when we have seen other founders (of multiple Free and Open Source related initiatives) pushed out of the organizations they founded (such as with Richard Stallman being compelled to resign from the Free Software Foundation, or the attempts to remove Linus Torvalds from the Linux Kernel – both of which happened within the last year) it seems worth taking a deeper look at what, specifically, is happening with the Open Source Initiative.

I don't wish to tell any of you what you should think about this significant move. As such I will simply provide as much of the relevant information as I can, show the timeline of events, and reach out to all involved parties for their points of view and comments.

The author provides links to — and quotations from — entries on the mailing list supporting this. There is also a conversation the author had with ESR. The full responses he received to his queries are posted, as well.


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  • (Score: 2) by quietus on Wednesday March 11 2020, @10:07AM (2 children)

    by quietus (6328) on Wednesday March 11 2020, @10:07AM (#969578) Journal

    I've learned one thing from being an entrepreneur for 35 years: when there is unguarded money on the table, the wolves arrive [hintjens.com].

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by quietus on Wednesday March 11 2020, @10:25AM (1 child)

    by quietus (6328) on Wednesday March 11 2020, @10:25AM (#969579) Journal

    Huh. The above linked article considers the reasons and the strategy for destroying Github.

    In the very last para, an update was given by the author (who died 2 years ago).

    He mentioned that the scenario was playing out full well, as the original instigator, Julie Ann Horvath, (made unfounded sexual harassment claims against the original Github founder) was replaced [archive.is] by somebody even worse, in terms of destroying the culture that made Github great.

    The name of that person: Coraline Ada Ehmke -- who is now behind this Eric S Raymond ousting.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 11 2020, @05:15PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 11 2020, @05:15PM (#969704)

      well. i try not to be biased.

      but if i were to reluctantly judge a book by its cover... she reminds me of a sort of female ex-uber ceo (travis or whatever the broseshjam guy was named).

      They both look shifty, but she's got an additional layer of conniving on top. Both looked like they assessed the situation purely for personal gain. Like when working with people, the only people to hang with are tools to use, and any tool not willing to be used is subject for disposal.

      Men and women often have different means to achieve the same ends, with different measures of success, with the ultimate goal with these types as being in charge regardless of the cost to others. they may even make it rosey for the people loyal to them via whatever methods that can come with success, either to keep them in line or because they actually are pretty good tools when used.

      Sometimes the tools even know they are being used as tools to be used, but often they they think they're there based on merit.