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posted by martyb on Wednesday March 11 2020, @01:46AM   Printer-friendly
from the Having-UBI-would-afford-more-time-to-spend-supporting-SoylentNews dept.

The fine folks at the CBC bring us the following report:

Participants in Ontario's prematurely cancelled basic income pilot project were happier, healthier and continued working even though they were receiving money with no-strings attached.

That's according to a new report titled Southern Ontario's Basic Income Experience, which was compiled by researchers at McMaster and Ryerson University, in partnership with the Hamilton Roundtable for Poverty Reduction.

The report shows nearly three-quarters of respondents who were working when the pilot project began kept at it despite receiving basic income.

That finding appears to contradict the criticism some levelled at the project, saying it would sap people's motivation to stay in the workforce or seek employment.

That's an interesting way of looking at it. An alternative viewpoint could be that over a quarter of the people who were working before the UBI trial stopped working. Unclear are the benefits that resulted from their new spare time — such as providing support to an ailing family member.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday March 11 2020, @03:28AM (4 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Wednesday March 11 2020, @03:28AM (#969468)

    If over a quarter of the workforce decide they'd just really rather not work

    TFA didn't make it easy to extract, but employment didn't drop by 25% - 25% of those previously employed did go unemployed on UBI, but 18.1% of those previously unemployed found employment. If you read some of the anecdotes, they're trolling the bottom of the barrel economically speaking, with something over 1/3 unemployed to start, and something like 1/2 of those employed, employed precariously.

    I hate to be this way, but: the value of a nation's economy isn't going to change much if your hookers stop running escort services and start working from home, or vice versa. On the other hand, when little old ladies can afford to get themselves a Chez lounge when they need one for health reasons, that might actually have a measurable impact on overall healthcare costs. On yet another hand, when your dumpster divers of the workforce get themselves out of those jobs and into something worthwhile - that should be an overall boost to the economy, even if the Uber drivers wise up and stay home to watch Netflix and get stoned more often.

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by pTamok on Wednesday March 11 2020, @08:00AM (3 children)

    by pTamok (3042) on Wednesday March 11 2020, @08:00AM (#969550)

    get themselves a Chez lounge

    This is not meant as a snarky comment, simply informative.

    You may not realise it, but that is actually written as chaise longue: it is French, and means 'long chair [wikipedia.org]'.

    Similarly, you might mean (benthic/bottom) trawling [wikipedia.org] rather than trolling [wikipedia.org] as a variation of the phrase 'scraping the bottom of the barrel [wiktionary.org]'.

    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday March 11 2020, @12:55PM

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Wednesday March 11 2020, @12:55PM (#969597)

      It looked wrong to me, but it's what the little old lady called it in her quote.

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    • (Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Wednesday March 11 2020, @07:11PM (1 child)

      by hemocyanin (186) on Wednesday March 11 2020, @07:11PM (#969756) Journal

      +5 grammar nazi (in a good non-snarky way).

      • (Score: 1) by pTamok on Wednesday March 11 2020, @08:14PM

        by pTamok (3042) on Wednesday March 11 2020, @08:14PM (#969789)

        Thank you.