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posted by martyb on Wednesday March 11 2020, @01:46AM   Printer-friendly
from the Having-UBI-would-afford-more-time-to-spend-supporting-SoylentNews dept.

The fine folks at the CBC bring us the following report:

Participants in Ontario's prematurely cancelled basic income pilot project were happier, healthier and continued working even though they were receiving money with no-strings attached.

That's according to a new report titled Southern Ontario's Basic Income Experience, which was compiled by researchers at McMaster and Ryerson University, in partnership with the Hamilton Roundtable for Poverty Reduction.

The report shows nearly three-quarters of respondents who were working when the pilot project began kept at it despite receiving basic income.

That finding appears to contradict the criticism some levelled at the project, saying it would sap people's motivation to stay in the workforce or seek employment.

That's an interesting way of looking at it. An alternative viewpoint could be that over a quarter of the people who were working before the UBI trial stopped working. Unclear are the benefits that resulted from their new spare time — such as providing support to an ailing family member.


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  • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday March 12 2020, @03:56AM (1 child)

    by Gaaark (41) on Thursday March 12 2020, @03:56AM (#970086) Journal

    Yup: 'Normal' people have ZERO idea.

    One time my son was dead set on going to Toys R Us and tried running across traffic (look both ways? WTF does that mean?). She caught him, luckily, before he got very far. He went limp and laid down half on the sidewalk, half on the street.
    She muscled/dragged him back to the car and proceeded to PUSH him with all she had back into the car.

    She said she was lucky no one called the cops because she was sure it looked like an abduction,.
    Got him in the car and then the shakes hit her.

    'They' have NO clue.

    Good luck to you and yours. "Could be worse!": the 3 most ironic words in the English language.

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  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Thursday March 12 2020, @12:49PM

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Thursday March 12 2020, @12:49PM (#970198)

    Long story, but, our oldest liked to go for walks, like 4 hour walks, when he was ~8 years old. There was a small neighborhood a little too far to walk from home called "Apple Tree" that he would call out every, single, time, we drove past - repeat it like 4 times "Apple Tree! Apple Tree! Apple Tree! Apple Tree!" so, finally after about 6 months of this, I took him for a drive to Apple Tree, and we got out and walked - not much else to do in a suburban residential neighborhood with about 80 homes and nothing else... We walked around the whole thing in about 15 minutes, all civilized like, but then he didn't want to get back into the car - meltdown, throwdown, in front of the residents talking on their porch. So, I finally managed to wrestle him to the grass, put him up on my shoulders and carry him over to the residents to explain the situation... they seemed to understand, and he calmed down and got in the car with me, we drove home and "back to normal." 45 minutes later there's a LOUD knock on the front door, local cop asking if I have a blue car (it was in the closed garage), we cooperate - giving the cop free transit through our home to the garage to confirm, explain about the autism - he doesn't even see Conrad when he calls on his shoulder radio "Yep, this is them, it's o.k. tell everybody else they don't have to come." He was extremely cool about it all, I'm just glad we don't have anything in the "privacy" of our home that we don't mind showing to cops. Oh, and the "Apple Tree!" callouts did slow down quite a bit after that.

    I think he was 12 when he decided one night to dart away from the car in the grocery store parking lot, across 6 lanes of traffic without slowing (I _think_ he might have had an idea to look for cars, but when he's moving slower sometimes he does just wander out into traffic in front of moving cars...) across the street to use the bathroom in the Starbucks. That was the first time I decided: he's faster than me, I can't really catch him and there's no point in endangering myself while trying to. So, I just walked across and caught up with him a minute or two later. Luckily the younger one doesn't do much of these type things, but... he's the one who got himself banned from Trader Joe's...

    Take care of yourselves first - if you want to keep helping your kids you can't do that if you're gone, or incapacitated. Reality is: it will happen eventually - I'm just hopeful that we'll reach some kind of "manageable" situation to hand off before we're dead.

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