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posted by Fnord666 on Monday March 23 2020, @01:19AM   Printer-friendly
from the What-goes-around-comes-around. dept.

"Kentucky Republican Rand Paul is the first US senator to test positive for coronavirus, throwing an even greater sense of urgency into Senate negotiations over a massive stimulus package that had yet to come together Sunday afternoon.

A statement from Paul's office posted to his Twitter account Sunday said he was "feeling fine" and was "tested out of an abundance of caution." But some senators and aides are angry at Paul for not doing more to self-quarantine earlier and for potentially exposing senators to the coronavirus.

[...] Senate Republicans, emerging from their closed-door lunch where they received the news, were extremely unsettled.

GOP senators told CNN Paul was in the gym with colleagues Sunday morning, and several pointed out how close Paul had sat to others during Senate lunches in recent days. Sen. Jerry Moran of Kansas said he saw Paul in the Senate swimming pool Sunday, according to a source in the GOP lunch.
"This is a different ballgame now," one Republican senator told CNN."

If one ignores the guidelines for social distancing like the above Senator, as well as the President in his daily briefing such as 6 foot separation and avoiding gatherings of more than 10 people, one may well expect to become infected. One's status and position will not provide protection.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/22/politics/rand-paul-coronavirus/index.html


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @12:04PM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @12:04PM (#974390)

    That woman is so full of hatred, she could grin ole Davey Crocket, Daniel Boone, and Stonewall Jackson and any bears in the vicinity to death, all at the same time.

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @12:31PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 23 2020, @12:31PM (#974393)

    Well, it was somewhere in the terms of incorporation that we had to accept a lesbian. I insisted that we hold out for a Wicca lesbian, or a Druid lesbian, or even a Maia lesbian, but everyone else just agreed to the first lesbian to apply. Look what we're stuck with now!

  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday March 23 2020, @03:02PM (10 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday March 23 2020, @03:02PM (#974433) Journal

    Please, you don't know from hate. This is just grim satisfaction at seeing Lady Karma get off her ass and start sniping people...and for all we know he'll recover just fine. This site is built around the principle of free speech uber alles. If you don't like it, the door's that way, and don't let it hit ya where the mother goddess split ya on the way out, snowflake.

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by khallow on Tuesday March 24 2020, @04:20PM (9 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 24 2020, @04:20PM (#975063) Journal

      This is just grim satisfaction at seeing Lady Karma get off her ass and start sniping people...

      In other words, hate. Rationalize it all you want, but you can't get away from your emotions that way.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday March 25 2020, @01:55AM (8 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday March 25 2020, @01:55AM (#975295) Journal

        So any time justice is done, it's hate? There is some truth to the saying that evil people invented mercy, as the good don't need it, perhaps? Some part of you, maybe, subconsciously knows how much you're going to have to answer for, but your stupid, stubborn pride prevents you from the necessary repentance (Koine "metanoia"). All well and good. You will be broken, one way or another. Keep whistling in the dark...

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        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday March 25 2020, @04:44PM (7 children)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday March 25 2020, @04:44PM (#975527) Journal
          What justice?

          There is some truth to the saying that evil people invented mercy, as the good don't need it, perhaps?

          Or perhaps there isn't truth to the saying.

          Some part of you, maybe, subconsciously knows how much you're going to have to answer for, but your stupid, stubborn pride prevents you from the necessary repentance (Koine "metanoia").

          Standard religious nuttery - you're wrong because you're not listening to the sky god hard enough.

          You will be broken, one way or another.

          And that's supposed to be relevant why? Am I not supposed to follow my moral beliefs because I will break one day?

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday March 26 2020, @12:26AM (6 children)

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday March 26 2020, @12:26AM (#975651) Journal

            The laws of physics ain't religious. Karma is to physics as time is to entropy. "This arising, that also arises; this ceasing, that also ceases." Morals are emergent.

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            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 26 2020, @02:08AM (5 children)

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday March 26 2020, @02:08AM (#975681) Journal

              Karma is to physics as time is to entropy.

              Or apples are to oranges.

              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday March 26 2020, @02:52PM (4 children)

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday March 26 2020, @02:52PM (#975897) Journal

                Sorry, was that too hard for you?

                It's like this: entropy always was, even before we came along. Time is how we measure entropy. The laws of physics predate us. Karma is how we measure them with a social/moral metric. Got it now? There's no vengeful God keeping a naughty list up in the sky somewhere. The phrase "Hell is other people" is *precisely* wrong.

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                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 26 2020, @03:37PM (3 children)

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday March 26 2020, @03:37PM (#975921) Journal

                  entropy always was, even before we came along. Time is how we measure entropy.

                  If you have a good way to link entropy and time that well, please step up and get that Nobel prize. Currently, it's at the pass-the-roach stage of development with the rudimentary acknowledgement that entropy increases with time.

                  The laws of physics predate us. Karma is how we measure them with a social/moral metric.

                  Complete bullshit. For example, a key precept of modern physics is relativity - that the laws of physics are the same in any reference frame. What would a corresponding social/moral relativity look like?

                  By your own admission, you claim that there is no such common laws of Karma between you and me because our morality is alleged so utterly different. More accurately, my reference frame allegedly can't support your Karma.

                  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday March 27 2020, @12:53PM (2 children)

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday March 27 2020, @12:53PM (#976271) Journal

                    You appear to be having reading comprehension difficulties.

                    The analogy here is to quantity vs. number. Numbers are something we made up, but they are useful to handle quantities. Quantities existed before numbers. Numbers describe them. In fact, "laws of nature" are merely anthropic *descriptions* of natural processes. Same deal here.

                    As to "my reference frame allegedly can't support your Karma," you're again failing to comprehend the plain language of what is being said to you. A flat-Earther's reference frame can't support the idea of a round Earth, but it's round nonetheless, and no amount of stubborn denial or willful ignorance is going to change that. You are the moral equivalent of a flat-Earther. drowning in denial. Karma--which is to say more accurately, the plain ol' laws of cause and effect as they relate to the human organism--doesn't give a fuck whether you understand or not, believe or not.

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                    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 27 2020, @01:26PM (1 child)

                      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 27 2020, @01:26PM (#976288) Journal

                      You appear to be having reading comprehension difficulties.

                      That's always been a stock phrase for identifying disagreement. Should have written something different then.

                      The analogy here is to quantity vs. number. Numbers are something we made up, but they are useful to handle quantities. Quantities existed before numbers. Numbers describe them. In fact, "laws of nature" are merely anthropic *descriptions* of natural processes. Same deal here.

                      Not even close. Karma as you have used it doesn't describe a thing nor is ever described. It serves in neither role. It's supernatural woo that you claim has some unstated relationship to physical law.

                      A flat-Earther's reference frame can't support the idea of a round Earth

                      Only because they active reject the model. Sorry, that's not happening here.

                      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday March 28 2020, @12:13AM

                        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday March 28 2020, @12:13AM (#976521) Journal

                        The best part of all this is that you both prove my point and demonstrate exactly how self-sealing your pathology is every time you reply :)

                        Time is how we put a human face on entropy. Numbers are how we put a human face on quantity. Karma is how we put a human face on the laws of cause and effect, some of which are not entirely describable by the current state of science. I can't make this any simpler; the map is not the territory, and just because you refuse to engage with the territory doesn't mean it doesn't exist or you can bend it to your will by stamping your feet and throwing a narcissistic shit-fit and scrawling your own map in your own feces.

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