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posted by martyb on Monday March 23 2020, @06:07PM   Printer-friendly
from the Live-to-ride,-ride-to-be-fined dept.

Off-Road Riders Fined while Riding on their Own Property:

Four teens in Hampden, Massachusetts, were fined $750 each by the Massachusetts Environmental Police while riding on their own property. The teens were riding on land owned by the parents of one of the boys, with the parents' permission, when the environmental police arrived and questioned them for two and a half hours. In the end, each teen received a $250 fine for operating an unregistered recreational vehicle, and a $500 fine for the operation of a recreational vehicle without a safety certification.

Speaking to 22News, Melanie Beck said her son and three friends were riding around her wooded yard, with her permission, when Massachusetts Environmental Police arrived and questioned the boys before handing out the fines. Beck wondered why the boys were not given a warning instead of a fine, considering the laws that they broke are apparently not well known in the area. She says other parents in the area have taken to social media to express their displeasure with the fines.

One of the teens told 22News that they were just trying to have fun, in contrast to other teens "doing drugs and vaping" instead of participating in outdoor activities.

A spokesperson for the Massachusetts Environmental Police, Craig Gilvarg, told 22News that safety education requirements for young riders have been in place since 2010. Additionally, the state of Massachusetts requires all recreational vehicles operated on public and private lands to be registered through the Massachusetts Environmental Police.

Earlier in February, 22News reported that ATV and dirt bike riders riding on city streets have been an ongoing issue in nearby Springfield, Massachusetts, saying that they had received multiple viewer complaints about the illegal activity. Police there have used undercover cars, motorcycles, and cameras to attempt to stop the problem, and have asked the public to keep an eye out for where the riders might be storing their vehicles.

See also: Four teens fined $750 for violating dirt bike laws in Hampden; What are the rules?

Environmental police? Huh? They're just jealous because they can't get it up, let alone up on two!


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  • (Score: 5, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Monday March 23 2020, @09:33PM (8 children)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday March 23 2020, @09:33PM (#974606) Journal

    As the AC noted, they do have the right to do permanent damage to terrain they own. And like most jack-booted authoritarians, you haven't thought through what that means.

    The runoff mentioned above is a pretty good example, let's think that through...

    When you turn your whole lot into dust, and the rain flushes all that turbidity into the river, and that turbidity kills all the fish that Buzzard was trying to catch, what happens then?

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  • (Score: 2) by https on Monday March 23 2020, @10:03PM (1 child)

    by https (5248) on Monday March 23 2020, @10:03PM (#974617) Journal

    Then hopefully, Buzz has the time to figure out a way to shadowban Nazi recruitment efforts.

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    Offended and laughing about it.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 24 2020, @01:28AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 24 2020, @01:28AM (#974716)

      Step 1: ban Ethanol-Fueled's account
      Step 2: .....
      Step 3: Get on with life

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by khallow on Monday March 23 2020, @11:28PM (5 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 23 2020, @11:28PM (#974659) Journal

    and that turbidity kills all the fish that Buzzard was trying to catch, what happens then?

    At that point, you're damaging other peoples' property in the now. There's clearly identifiable people who are harmed.

    • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday March 24 2020, @02:34PM (3 children)

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday March 24 2020, @02:34PM (#974984) Journal

      Runaway doesn't own the rivers he fishes on, the public does.

      What happens now?

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday March 24 2020, @02:37PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday March 24 2020, @02:37PM (#974987) Journal

        Haha! Oops, wrong conservative!

        But hey, it's a public river, Runaway can fish there too.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday March 24 2020, @04:11PM (1 child)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 24 2020, @04:11PM (#975054) Journal
        What does it mean that "the public" "owns" a river? If an entity has ownership in the usual sense, then there's a party to be harmed.
        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday March 24 2020, @04:37PM

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday March 24 2020, @04:37PM (#975082) Journal

          Rivers are not private property in the US. That's what allows any rando with a boat to use them.

          So Buzzard can fish in them and they can be used for shipping and whatnot.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 25 2020, @12:06PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 25 2020, @12:06PM (#975414)

      Wrong. Clearly they stole all that dust from your property and tried to hide it in their stream, so you press changes againt them to get your dirt back.