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posted by martyb on Thursday March 26 2020, @09:00AM   Printer-friendly
from the pride-goeth-before-a-fall dept.

A group of young adults held a coronavirus party in Kentucky to defy orders to socially distance. Now one of them has coronavirus:

At least one person in Kentucky is infected after taking part at a "coronavirus party" with a group of young adults [...]

The partygoers intentionally got together "thinking they were invincible" and purposely defying state guidance to practice social distancing, [...]

[...] the virus seems to be affecting young people in the United States more than it has in China. A report released last week by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention showed that up to 20% of people hospitalized with coronavirus in the United States are between the ages of 20 and 44.

[...] "So far the demography definitely seems to be very different in the United States versus in other countries that saw this hit earlier,"

[...] In New York state, more than half of coronavirus cases -- 53% -- have been among young people between the ages of 18 and 49

From MSN:
Kentucky coronavirus party with group of young adults has left at least one person infected:

At least one person in Kentucky is infected after taking part at a "coronavirus party" with a group of young adults [...] The partygoers intentionally got together "thinking they were invincible" and purposely defying state guidance to practice social distancing [...] "This is one that makes me mad," the governor said. "We have to be much better than that."

And...From Slate:

A group of Kentucky partygoers recently attended a "coronavirus party." The event, which appears to be a pandemic-themed soiree, as you might imagine, was not a civic-minded effort to promote social distancing practices and best hand-washing practices, but a slap in the face to everyone else's collective efforts to not kill our parents and grandparents. The party mocked the virus, and the coronavirus gods were angry. One of the twentysomething attendees of the ill-advised gathering in the midst of a national emergency tested positive for the virus Tuesday.

Maybe I'm too old to get it, but it seems to me somewhat unwise to do this.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 26 2020, @10:30AM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 26 2020, @10:30AM (#975795)

    And his major point is the bogeyman of a government going bankrupt. You know what happens with a bankruptcy? Creditors don't get paid. Who are these creditors that I should give a shit whether or not they get paid?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 26 2020, @11:01AM (11 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 26 2020, @11:01AM (#975805)

    You're the creditor. The money was borrowed from your future in the form of social security and pension funds. Do you give a shit now?

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 26 2020, @12:51PM (8 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 26 2020, @12:51PM (#975834)

      No, you can't borrow from the future. You borrow from a creditor. There has to be a creditor now. That (((creditor))) may plan on raping your s.s. and pension fund to get repaid in the future, but if he doesn't exist then neither does your loan.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 26 2020, @12:58PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 26 2020, @12:58PM (#975838)

        Money can be borrowed from the future if it was set aside for the future in the present, it isn't that complicated. They already raped your pension funds and your social security. There will be nothing for you, and the reserves have been pillaged. It isn't a secret.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 26 2020, @01:52PM (6 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday March 26 2020, @01:52PM (#975854) Journal

        No, you can't borrow from the future.

        Look at any government in action and you'll see how it's done. Classic example are services that have growing liabilities like medical care or pensions. When everyone is putting in and few are taking out, it's stable. But in today's aging world, that financial balance grows out of balance with the younger generations taking the hit. A classic borrowing from the future in action globally.

        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 26 2020, @01:59PM (5 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 26 2020, @01:59PM (#975860)

          Fine, on behalf of the future I hereby forgive and cancel all these debts.

          Anyone object? Who? Why? What standing do they have to object?

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 26 2020, @03:19PM (4 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday March 26 2020, @03:19PM (#975911) Journal

            Fine, on behalf of the future I hereby forgive and cancel all these debts.

            Anyone object? Who? Why? What standing do they have to object?

            I said "liabilities" not "debts". Governments have very intriguing ways to borrow from the future. But even if we consider just the debt, the lenders have standing because the government, which was permitted to do the borrowing promised to pay them back.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 27 2020, @01:14AM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 27 2020, @01:14AM (#976158)

              I said "liabilities" not "debts".

              Not a significant difference in context.

              But even if we consider just the debt, the lenders have standing .

              And two sentences later you refer to these "lenders" who don't exist at this time. Who are they?

              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 27 2020, @02:08PM (2 children)

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 27 2020, @02:08PM (#976300) Journal

                Not a significant difference in context.

                One shows up on the accounting books, the other typically doesn't.

                And two sentences later you refer to these "lenders" who don't exist at this time.

                Given that was the last sentence and there was no two sentences later? No.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 27 2020, @07:08PM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 27 2020, @07:08PM (#976411)

                  Sentence 1.

                  I said "liabilities" not "debts".

                  Sentence 3. Bolding added to show the reference to lenders.

                  But even if we consider just the debt, the lenders have standing because the government, which was permitted to do the borrowing promised to pay them back.

                  Note that sentence 3 is two sentences later than Sentence 1.
                  Anything else you would like to pedantically misunderstand in order to dodge the point?

                  Who are the "lenders"?

                  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 27 2020, @07:45PM

                    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 27 2020, @07:45PM (#976426) Journal

                    Who are the "lenders"?

                    The entities that the US explicitly borrowed money from - and promised to pay back. It's some combination of governments, businesses, and individuals who purchased US bonds or treasuries. I know, for example, several people who have purchased said securities so I definitely know they exist.

    • (Score: 4, Touché) by EEMac on Thursday March 26 2020, @05:44PM (1 child)

      by EEMac (6423) on Thursday March 26 2020, @05:44PM (#975990)

      Generation X-er here. I've been told since I was a kid that social security won't be there when I retire - told loudly, clearly, repeatedly, and with lots of charts. Of course the government has taken 12% [thebalancesmb.com] of my income every working day of my life regardless.

      Also, a government bankruptcy would save future generations from being saddled with the debt the previous generations ran up. I hope some sizeable generation looks at the debt and realizes there's no moral reason they should pay it. I don't have any specific generation in mind, it's just a vague hope.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @07:12PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @07:12PM (#976721)

        stop funding it like a coward.