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At least one person in Kentucky is infected after taking part at a "coronavirus party" with a group of young adults [...]
The partygoers intentionally got together "thinking they were invincible" and purposely defying state guidance to practice social distancing, [...]
[...] the virus seems to be affecting young people in the United States more than it has in China. A report released last week by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention showed that up to 20% of people hospitalized with coronavirus in the United States are between the ages of 20 and 44.
[...] "So far the demography definitely seems to be very different in the United States versus in other countries that saw this hit earlier,"
[...] In New York state, more than half of coronavirus cases -- 53% -- have been among young people between the ages of 18 and 49
From MSN:
Kentucky coronavirus party with group of young adults has left at least one person infected:
At least one person in Kentucky is infected after taking part at a "coronavirus party" with a group of young adults [...] The partygoers intentionally got together "thinking they were invincible" and purposely defying state guidance to practice social distancing [...] "This is one that makes me mad," the governor said. "We have to be much better than that."
And...From Slate:
A group of Kentucky partygoers recently attended a "coronavirus party." The event, which appears to be a pandemic-themed soiree, as you might imagine, was not a civic-minded effort to promote social distancing practices and best hand-washing practices, but a slap in the face to everyone else's collective efforts to not kill our parents and grandparents. The party mocked the virus, and the coronavirus gods were angry. One of the twentysomething attendees of the ill-advised gathering in the midst of a national emergency tested positive for the virus Tuesday.
Maybe I'm too old to get it, but it seems to me somewhat unwise to do this.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by driverless on Thursday March 26 2020, @12:57PM (16 children)
That's a point instance of "I'm sorry to say this, $older_generation, but a lot of $younger_generation needs something to get angry about, and in this case it's you". It's always possible to come up with some reason to be angry, don't understand our music, don't like the way we dress (those two go back forever), are holding us back, I think the Boomer one is "ruined the world for us" or something isn't it? It happens with every generation.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 26 2020, @02:12PM (15 children)
No other generation whines as much and does so little to change their situation as the millennials.
Millennals blame everyone except themselves for their:
-poor life decisions ("going $120k in debt to pursue a humanity degree seems like a good idea")
-entitlement of galactic proportions ("I just graduated-where's my $160K/yr starting wage job?")
-poor mental and physical health ("I am a sexy and beautiful 240lbs vegan(part-time) at 18, but I can't figure out why I already have diabetes, high blood pressure, and early-stage arthritis in the hips and knees?")
-continuing to pick terrible mentors and terrible role-models ("this tumblr-celebrity doesn't vaccinate her kids so neither will I. No one gets polio any more, right")
-herd mentality ("I saw a video of fire-challenge/eyeball tattoos/pile-driving my friend off a roof/drinking bleach.That looks like fun so I must do that too!)
-poor financials ("How can I possibly afford a mortgage when I am spending $2500 a month on dining out?","Make a budget to control my spending? I will no lower myself to that level!")
Disclaimer-I am not a boomer.
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Thursday March 26 2020, @03:36PM
To be fair, when I went to college, I didn't really consider what it was costing. It's true, the cost wasn't as high, and nobody went into debt about it, but it was high, and I still didn't really think about it. To expect long term decisions of someone in the late teens or early twenties is foolish. What's annoying is that older folks tend to become increasingly selfish without even any long term advantage. And an abysmal number of them don't seem capable of long term, or even medium term decisions. And I'm not talking about the ones who are driven into short term decisions by immediate survival needs (in which I include not only the next meal, but the next month's rent).
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(Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Thursday March 26 2020, @04:17PM (6 children)
> No other generation whines as much and does so little to change their situation as the millennials.
Note that on average, millenials are expected to earn less and have lower disposable income than their parents. So there is a systematic issue.
https://www.ft.com/content/81343d9e-187b-11e8-9e9c-25c814761640 [ft.com]
I agree, that it is up to the millennials to fix it, rather than complaining that no one is fixing it for them. I am sure many millennials are doing just that.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 26 2020, @04:27PM
How are they supposed to solve this when they haven't got the monetary resources necessary to out bribe the entrenched interests?
Right now, the federal government is going to just give out roughly $5tn in money to various corporate interests. That sum of money could easily cover the cost of student debt and medical care for everybody. Instead, they're giving it to special interests with few strings attached.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 26 2020, @04:35PM (4 children)
Their parents earned less and had lower disposable income starting out. It takes time to build up a career and financial stability. Millenials have been raised to believe this happens over night as soon as they graduate from high school.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 26 2020, @05:31PM (2 children)
Where do you get this bullshit from? The Boomers were doing far better as a group at this point in their careers than the millenials are. Or, how about Gen X? In the years since I graduated high school, we've had 3 major crashes in the economy and after each one, the rich got richer while passing on less and less to the workers. The economy has gotten more and more hollowed out and there you go. It's not a matter of expectations of the underclasses, it's the expectations of the rich to be allowed to accumulate more and more wealth and to hell with anybody that's not making enough money to invest.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 26 2020, @07:00PM
Early Boomers were. Not so for the latter half. As I see it, this is primary a combination of first mover advantage from being in front of social and economic trends (such as being the first to buy houses in the hot real estate markets of the past half century) combined with globalism - labor competition from the developing world.
(Score: 2) by EEMac on Friday March 27 2020, @09:32PM
IIRC, the Federal Reserve was given control of the money supply to stop economic crashes from happening.
They still happen a lot, yet the Fed is still in control. Hmm . . .
(Score: 5, Informative) by Thexalon on Thursday March 26 2020, @07:42PM
This is so inaccurate it's not even funny.
According to census figures: The average wage of a 25-year-old Millennial was approximately $30,000. The average wage of a 25-year-old in 1970 was approximately $8000, or around $50,000 in today's dollars. So younger adults today are getting paid a little more than half of what their parents were getting paid.
And to add to that, rent and many other fixed expenses are much higher now than they were in 1970.
And then they wonder why younger adults have much lower disposable income than their parents did when they were young.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Thursday March 26 2020, @05:49PM (3 children)
Those life decisions were the result of 18-year-olds following the advice of their parents, guidance counselors, teachers, academic advisors, financial aid officers, loan officers, political leaders, and numerous celebrities. Or in short, absolutely every adult that they could listen to when making their decisions. I think it's safe to say that if it was a bad life decision, they had absolutely zero way of knowing it. Oh, and the "humanity" degree isn't really the issue either: Lots of STEM graduates are just as screwed right now as the English majors.
They weren't, on average, asking for a $160K/yr starting wage job. They were asking for a starting wage job that allowed them to pay rent, utilities, food, their student loans, a way to get to work, and maybe a little bit extra for an occasional date or something. So about $30-40K/yr in my area at least. And do you know who told them those jobs would be available once they graduated college? Their parents, guidance counselors, teachers, academic advisors, financial aid officers, loan officers, political leaders, and numerous celebrities. Or again, absolutely every adult they could listen to when making their decisions.
Those jobs weren't available after they graduated for the most part because what had been the entry-level jobs were being occupied by the boomers who had been making $80K a year but had been "downsized" in the aftermath of the 2008 crisis and were trying to hang onto their homes, car, etc.
Or their medical problems are more likely to be diagnosed and treated. For example, just because nowadays we understand about autism doesn't mean it didn't exist a century ago, it means that we used to just call this person "stupid" or "weird".
Y'know, like Neil deGrasse Tyson, Bernie Sanders, and Elon Musk, nothing admirable about any of those guys. And as for anti-vax beliefs, those are apparently mostly 45-54 years old [qz.com], a.k.a. Gen Xers.
Meanwhile, boomers and their parents seem to be the age group most congregating around Donald Trump, who seems to be trying to get millions of people killed for no good reason and has probably raped quite a few people. Real role model.
Every human of every age group has that to some degree. The only difference now is that their idiocy is more visible, e.g. I doubt the number of people who actually ate a Tide pod isn't much higher than the number of people who licked a lamppost in winter decades ago.
I find it interesting that young people are simultaneously supposedly spending recklessly on luxuries and at the same time destroying industries that provide those luxuries by not actually buying them [businessinsider.com]. One I find particularly interesting is that young people both smoke and drink less than they used to, both pretty good indicators of irresponsible behavior.
You might not be a boomer, but you clearly believe a lot of nonsense about young people.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 26 2020, @07:06PM
Sorry I don't have any mod points. I agree 100%. I was lucky enough to get a full scholarship - and I do mean lucky. My siblings didn't know, and all of them are buried in student loan debt. The only exception is one that worked a blue collar job and spent every spare cent paying down his student loans. He paid them off at age 30, but really spent 8 years of his life doing nothing but working overtime just to get them off his back. We have all agreed on the same thing: if our kids want to go to college, we will help them go to community college and then the cheapest accredited institutions we can find.
But just like you said - my parents, my teachers, my school guidance counselors, politicians at every level - everyone said a college degree would lead to a good career path. None of us expected $160k after graduation, but we did expect $40k - and most of us didn't get it. A lot of us didn't even get $30k. My sister has been climbing the ladder in her technical field for 20 years and just got to $90k. That might sound reasonable, but as I posted elsewhere my Boomer father was making the inflation-adjusted equivalent to that amount at age 20. So at his generation it took a work ethic and a high school diploma, in ours it took a master's degree and 20 years of work. I work as a software engineer and I didn't reach 90k until I was in the field 11 years.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Thursday March 26 2020, @07:43PM (1 child)
I don't buy it. Someone would have at least warned of the perils of too much debt. I had several people warn me when I was going to college for the first time.
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday March 26 2020, @08:54PM
They were mostly told "Don't worry, it will be fine, because you'll be making $50K a year right out of college." And then they weren't. Whoops. Now, granted, some of the people telling them this (e.g. loan officers and the financial aid officers getting kickbacks from the loan officers) had a profit motive to lie to them, but they're 18-year-olds, and most 18-year-olds aren't wise to that part of life.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 26 2020, @05:50PM (1 child)
Millennals blame everyone except themselves for their:
-poor life decisions ("going $120k in debt to pursue a humanity degree seems like a good idea")
oh yeah, it's college kids fault you fucking whores made getting a degree a fucking scam.
-entitlement of galactic proportions ("I just graduated-where's my $160K/yr starting wage job?")
how dare they expect their stupid piece of paper be worth what it was supposed to be worth.
-poor mental and physical health ("I am a sexy and beautiful 240lbs vegan(part-time) at 18, but I can't figure out why I already have diabetes, high blood pressure, and early-stage arthritis in the hips and knees?")
as if their stupid fucking whore ass parents didn't teach them to eat pig slop from the time they were born and spoil the shit out of them.
-continuing to pick terrible mentors and terrible role-models ("this tumblr-celebrity doesn't vaccinate her kids so neither will I. No one gets polio any more, right")
shove your boot licking bs up your ass, you baby brain damaging bitch. no one gets polio anymore b/c people stopped eating infected shit/indoor plumbing, you brainwashed slave.
-herd mentality ("I saw a video of fire-challenge/eyeball tattoos/pile-driving my friend off a roof/drinking bleach.That looks like fun so I must do that too!)
this is just the stupidity of youth. always has been always will be.
-poor financials ("How can I possibly afford a mortgage when I am spending $2500 a month on dining out?","Make a budget to control my spending? I will no lower myself to that level!")
they went to your schools, they went to your churches they went to your institutional learning facilities and they're the ones who are crazy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE4Fvjhz2sE [youtube.com]
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 26 2020, @07:47PM
Interesting how when everyone is at fault, you're not. Those were your schools, churches, etc.
(Score: 2) by driverless on Friday March 27 2020, @02:28AM
Yeah, you've got a point there. Comparing my parents, Boomers, and my nieces, Millennials, they both had the same plan:
My parents followed through on this. We never had much as kids, but we were secure. My niece changed it to:
He's an electrician and she's at home looking after the baby, with more to come. They will never own their own home, or have anything much. Any extra money that comes in gets spent as soon as they get it. This has nothing to do with "well the parents had it so much easier", they grew up in a country destroyed by war where people were living in bombed-out cellars, and everything to do with total irresponsibility and poor life choices.