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An enterprise SSD flaw will brick hardware after exactly 40,000 hours:
Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE) has warned that certain SSD drives could fail catastrophically if buyers don't take action soon. Due to a firmware bug, the products in question will be bricked exactly 40,000 hours (four years, 206 days and 16 hours) after the SSD has entered service. "After the SSD failure occurs, neither the SSD nor the data can be recovered," the company warned in a customer service bulletin.
[...] The drives in question are 800GB and 1.6TB SAS models and storage products listed in the service bulletin here. It applies to any products with HPD7 or earlier firmware. HPE also includes instructions on how to update the firmware and check the total time on the drive to best plan an upgrade. According to HPE, the drives could start failing as early as October this year.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Bot on Friday March 27 2020, @11:04AM (14 children)
How about this, mandatory decoupling between controller in the widest sense and mechanics for every electronic item and mandatory free out of warranty controller replacement. Or free upgrade if you stopped making it. No more phones that refuse to charge even with fresh battery. No more printers that fail just because. No more heaps of garbage that make Greta cry. (well, she should).
Yes stuff would cost more, but it's the right price. And money is a fraud anyway.
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(Score: 2, Troll) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday March 27 2020, @12:34PM (4 children)
What is your obsession with Thunberg? Does it bother you that she's less than half your age and already accomplished more--and is a better person--than you ever will do or be?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2, Funny) by Bot on Friday March 27 2020, @12:56PM
Let's enter debug mode of the lefty brain:
BAD TRUMP BAD TRUMP BAD TRUMP HEY DON'T TOUCH GRETA YOU OBSESSED PSYCHOPATH BAD TRUMP BAD TRUMP BAD TRUMP
wew
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(Score: 4, Touché) by Nuke on Friday March 27 2020, @01:15PM (2 children)
I read Bot's post as being on the same side as Grumpy Greta, so I'm not sure what your point is. And how do you know what Bot has or has not accomplished?
As for me, I wouldn't need Greta to tell me that I'm pissed off when my HP printer or SSD stops working because they put a time limiter in it.
(Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 27 2020, @02:42PM
How does zoomy-zukes know anything? She just asserts it, and lo! it is truth.
(Score: 2, Troll) by Bot on Sunday March 29 2020, @02:28AM
>so I'm not sure what your point is.
You should download the Azuma to English dictionary.
For example when Azuma says: "You are the lowest entity in the universe, I would throw you into a black hole only to see the hole spit you back because you're too repulsive for it", it really means: "Hello there, nice weather this afternoon don't you think?"/
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(Score: 5, Informative) by RS3 on Friday March 27 2020, @02:58PM (8 children)
> mandatory decoupling between controller in the widest sense
Agree. Occasionally I've been able to recover spinning magnetic hard disk data by replacing the controller board.
Rather than take these (HPE SSD) kinds of risks with data, I'd be more inclined to use a controller that uses plugin microSD cards. If the controller dies, or even an individual SD card, just replace the thing that died.
One example, and it will run them in RAID: https://the-gadgeteer.com/2016/03/17/turn-10-micro-sd-cards-into-a-sata-ssd-drive/ [the-gadgeteer.com]
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Friday March 27 2020, @03:03PM (1 child)
That example looks cool, but further searching reveals shortcomings: it probably can only do RAID 0, which is no good. Also, I don't think it does wear-leveling, TRIM, etc., so again, no good. But the concept is great.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 27 2020, @03:17PM
I's a terrible concept because you can just buy two normal SSDs of comparable storage capacity for the price of the micro-SD cards you pin this thing, still have change left over, and the normal SSDs will perform better and last longer.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 27 2020, @03:11PM (5 children)
That seems like an overly expensive way to make a really slow SSD that will not last particularly long.
(Score: 4, Touché) by janrinok on Friday March 27 2020, @07:23PM (4 children)
Yeah, but other than that it would be OK.....
(Score: 3, Insightful) by RS3 on Saturday March 28 2020, @06:19AM (3 children)
That is funny, but the ACs are missing the point. RTFS: "After the SSD failure occurs, neither the SSD nor the data can be recovered."
With my idea, your data has a high likelihood of recovery. That is the point I was trying to make.
Who cares about the cost of stupid hardware, whether the drive is $50 or $500. The data might be priceless. Why lose all your data because 1 controller died? Why lose all your data because 1 FLASH cell died and drags down an address crossbar? Pull the microSD cards, plug them into a new controller and you're back in business.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Sunday March 29 2020, @10:17PM (2 children)
Why not just have a backup?
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Monday March 30 2020, @12:01AM (1 child)
I knew someone had to ruin a perfectly ludicrous argument by injecting reason, ration, and sanity. Harumph.
Psst: nobody ever does those. We only talk smugly about them, and patronize those who lose data.
Joking aside, the 1 TB audio engineer's drive was very very expensive 10 or so years ago, and I'm not sure he could afford any way to back up that much data. And, I think he was one of many people who just don't understand that storage is unreliable. It just doesn't occur to them.
And to be more clear, it's not that they are unreliable, it's the disaster that occurs when they do fail, and you really rarely have any warning. And even if you do get some kind of warning, most people don't know what to do next.
My first computer's hard disk failed after I had it for only a few weeks. I don't remember what data I lost, but it was good to learn that lesson early on in computing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 01 2020, @04:28PM
1TB drives were not expensive 10 or so years ago. According to this chart of drive prices over time [backblaze.com] they cost about $0.11/GB back in Q1 2009, pricing them at about 100 USD which seems about right.
Seriously: if you are at all worried about data loss due to drive failures you can just buy two drives and save everything to both of them.